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What was your first impressions of PhysX (Mafia II)
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What program is that running in the top left hand corner of your screen showing GPU usage, temps and fps mate?
I agree but us as gamers want the full experience even if its barely noticeable..
for example people would spends hundreds of pounds just to get a good bench in Crysis and they don't even play the game.
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Off topic but...what!? The quality of the RMA services are to do with retailers and manufacturers, NOT the chip maker. If your 8800GTX is made by...say EVGA, then it is EVGA's responsibility handle your RMA and replace the card for you, NOT Nvidia.
I could have been an vanilla Nvida card though, they did used to sell their own basic cards in the mid to low range afaik. And if that was the case, then you would have had to send it to germany or usa neither or which comes back within within two months if at all.
And evga are pathetic for EU support compared to priceless in the USA, never bought an evga product after the lifetime warrenty fiasco aswell as thier trade-in upgrade which went fubar. Just read the stories of the usa guys gettings 10 day turn around upgrade or rma replacement. POV are probably my fav Nvida brand now, only EU and cracking support
......apologies v.off-topic
it was actually made by nvidia, smart ***.
love the way you ignored the rest of what i said, classic.
the chopped off bit? well...
i know i'll be ignoring your opinion on everything on earth from now on.
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Just using Afterburner
it was actually made by nvidia, smart ***.
love the way you ignored the rest of what i said, classic.
the chopped off bit? well...
i know i'll be ignoring your opinion on everything on earth from now on.
I've never seen a Nvidia branded card
I'm fairly sure all they do is create the chip and the reference design.The extract below is taken from here
But you have to use it under Nvidia rules, so both are the problem.
If FizzX was open to all without restriction then super smart programmers would be able to really have a bash at reducing the crazy processing overheads Nvidia want to use to sell GPU's.
Throwing around 1000 RBs is a lot different to 100s of tri-meshes, softbody effects, ragdolls, etc. thats in mafia 2 and you can see the physics objects becoming jerky and lower frame rate simulation in order to preserve game framerate in that video.
The source is available to anyone who licenses it, there aren't crazy overheads in it used to sell GPUs people just don't understand the nature of how the API differes to software APIs that are focused on high performance RB physics.
There was ragdolls & you only need softbodys when there is a need for them, physx becomes jerky as well & so do gfx in games when the GPU cant keep up, the main reason why people upgrade.
If physx would never become jerky the recommended requirements would not keep going up & people here would not be criticising its performance.
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Yeah there was ragdolls but only ~10 NPCs being simulated in a scene - Mafia 2 has a lot more than that simulated at a time and (if not patched out) is also running cloth effects on them as well.
That said Mafia 2 doesn't seem to simulate ragdolls on corpses
bit dissapointing.
That said Mafia 2 doesn't seem to simulate ragdolls on corpses
bit dissapointing.
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Well if thats the case Nvidia are selling FizzX to morons and the Nvidia developments team must also not know how to write to take advantage of FizzX without a huge processing overhead. Kind of handy when the sole aim of the system is to sell GPU's dont you think ?
So we are back to the problem being with both Nvidia and the devs.
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Yeah point taken. A puny 32bit single core CPU running Physics and a game, a good example of how far PC gaming has come along. We have really come a long way haven't we
Surely that cant be running without a dedicated NVIDIA PPU.. Its not possible to do physics like that on a CPU...
I call fake........
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The point it did have where you said it did not & you only need as many as need for the job.
And you pointing out the technical aspects all the time to cover up the less than impressive final results which is common when results are less than impressive.
Gamers are interested in good end results & not bad ones because of technical issues.
Investor " That was not every good was it"
Engineer " Yeah but you have to remember its technically doing this & that & this & that which has never been done before".
Investor " All that means nothing if it cannot deliver the end results that i require in a satisfactory manner".
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Theres nothing in there that complicated physics wise and you can see the simulation dropping <15fps with the more complex scenes in order to keep the game framerate fluid.
Throwing around a few 100 barrels (cylinder RBs) is childs play for most software physics APIs, the wood splintering is a bit more impressive.
So as I said bitch at the developers not the API.