**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

I'm quite upset now really.

As I stated a few pages back that I'm not an RTS fan, but Starcraft II seemed something special, and I was very pleased with it up until now.

Then I mentioned this to a mate, and he recommended Age Of Empires 2. So I got that and installed it, only to find after a few hours that after all these years, it's practically THE SAME FRICKIN' GAME!!! Slight change of pace is all.

What's going on? Has nothing changed in RTS games since Age Of Empires 2 was released yonks ago? I can't understand it.
 
I'm quite upset now really.

As I stated a few pages back that I'm not an RTS fan, but Starcraft II seemed something special, and I was very pleased with it up until now.

Then I mentioned this to a mate, and he recommended Age Of Empires 2. So I got that and installed it, only to find after a few hours that after all these years, it's practically THE SAME FRICKIN' GAME!!! Slight change of pace is all.

What's going on? Has nothing changed in RTS games since Age Of Empires 2 was released yonks ago? I can't understand it.

Has anything really changed in the FPS genre between Wolfenstein 3D and Crysis 2?

RTS games are like this; this one happens to be that based around heavy economy play with workers and resources, which works so why try and do something silly with it, like I dunno, making little arbitrary zones you have to capture.
 
I'm quite upset now really.

As I stated a few pages back that I'm not an RTS fan, but Starcraft II seemed something special, and I was very pleased with it up until now.

Then I mentioned this to a mate, and he recommended Age Of Empires 2. So I got that and installed it, only to find after a few hours that after all these years, it's practically THE SAME FRICKIN' GAME!!! Slight change of pace is all.

What's going on? Has nothing changed in RTS games since Age Of Empires 2 was released yonks ago? I can't understand it.

Its never been the "next generation" RTS, it will always refer to its old roots in SC:BW - if they changed it, it wouldn't be as popular at all. I've gone over this so many times already with peoplee thinking its meant to be next gen.
Blizzard have catered majorly for the more competetive gamer, and put in new things to try and hook the lower league gamers into playing more.

I think the motto, if it aint broke, dont fix it best suits this :)

Look at all genres of games.. which of them has drastically changed? non. you will always have the bare bones like this in any genre, and each title will have its own little "perk" that makes it slightly different.
 
Quite so, and indeed had Blizzard changed the gameplay to any great extent, many people would have felt that they had betrayed the SC heritage, and it probably wouldn't have sold so well.
 
Sorry, it wasn't meant to be a rant, I was just taken aback.

That argument above comparing Wolfenstein 3D and Crysis 2 also stands, agreed, although any advances there seem more obvious at first glance.

It doesn't seem that there's been anything really new for a long, long time. Just remakes of remakes.

Wish I was yound enough to be able to play something for the first time again, it just seems that new ideas were given more chances a while back. But then again, if games need millions to get developed, chances are the last thing you can afford.

Same goes for film remakes of surefire winners, I suppose.

Anyway, I'm probably just getting too tired of the same old same old in ever more shiny clothing. Sigh!
 
Was good mate! My PC blue screened lol :(

Defo up for some later, enjoyed getting raped by you lol.

Heh, you did really well on the 2nd last + last game, you almost had me on the 2nd last but as I blocked you expanding for so long I could pump out units with like 2 scv's only being alive. The last you just demolished me with reapers, was about to head out, then got "Base is under attack", I switch back and there's about 2 million Reapers in my base (nearly wrote "Rapers" there, that's probably a more accurate name for them :p).
 
Sorry, it wasn't meant to be a rant, I was just taken aback.

That argument above comparing Wolfenstein 3D and Crysis 2 also stands, agreed, although any advances there seem more obvious at first glance.

It doesn't seem that there's been anything really new for a long, long time. Just remakes of remakes.

Wish I was yound enough to be able to play something for the first time again, it just seems that new ideas were given more chances a while back. But then again, if games need millions to get developed, chances are the last thing you can afford.

Same goes for film remakes of surefire winners, I suppose.

Anyway, I'm probably just getting too tired of the same old same old in ever more shiny clothing. Sigh!

I know exactly what you mean, i remember playing games like Transport Tycoon and C&C and being like "omg".. and when i first got WoW, i had the *gasp* of first walking into Stormwind... I must admit, theres little to non of that now!

Although, the cutscene with Kerrigan in New Gettysburg gave me a few shivers! hehe
 
same old in shiny clothing, where is the other games similar to this? dawn of war 2? c+c they all pale in comparison. nothing as balanced as this has been out since wc3. No other rts devloper can make balanced rts that are good and high skill level which is why it isn't the same old you see all the time. *Even if it isn't technically balanced it will be in the end :D probably after first expansion
 
Son of a *****, OldWorld I'll remember that name, chose random, became zerg and came with his all workers too me and managed to kill all my scv's.

There is pretty much no way against it is there, I saved 2 workers then wanted to move base elsewhere but workers would follow me around not letting me collect minerals.
 
Son of a *****, OldWorld I'll remember that name, chose random, became zerg and came with his all workers too me and managed to kill all my scv's.

There is pretty much no way against it is there, I saved 2 workers then wanted to move base elsewhere but workers would follow me around not letting me collect minerals.

If he rushed you with his initial workers +1 then by the time he gets there you should have a couple than him more and as long as you react by having all your workers get in on the action you should win the match then and there; the only times I have seen this work (when I've done it for lulz atleast) is on people who either don't react at all or panic and start trying to move their workers away.
 
Son of a *****, OldWorld I'll remember that name, chose random, became zerg and came with his all workers too me and managed to kill all my scv's.

There is pretty much no way against it is there, I saved 2 workers then wanted to move base elsewhere but workers would follow me around not letting me collect minerals.

haha SCV's should own drones. just make sure you repair with a couple of SCV's :) hehe

Also, you could just load up your CC and fly to an Island if available, If not, even if you just build 1 SCV each time you land, you'll have enough to take out his drones.
 
shish, plat is all about lame rushes >_> everybody does it I am tired of it.

It seems people don't want to play but want to win.

One prot tried proxy gate on me and when he realised that my "wall" is not going down he just left the game, didn't even try to go on.
 
Hey mate, sorry but my comp has blue screened 2 out of 3 games. I'm going to try and sort it. Only happens with SC2 :/

I remember reading something about Vsync not working for the menus or something in StarCraft 2? causing you to go to crazy high frames and thus overheating your graphics card and causing bad things to happen, might want to make sure it's not happening to you.

[Edit]: Here's and article about it, with a fix :)
 
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I remember reading something about Vsync not working for the menus or something in StarCraft 2? causing you to go to crazy high frames and thus overheating your graphics card and causing bad things to happen, might want to make sure it's not happening to you.

[Edit]: Here's and article about it, with a fix :)

Thanks mate :)
 
shish, plat is all about lame rushes >_> everybody does it I am tired of it.

It seems people don't want to play but want to win.

One prot tried proxy gate on me and when he realised that my "wall" is not going down he just left the game, didn't even try to go on.

lol, i had someone do that to me the other day, they left because they couldn't get through defence...:rolleyes: so much for these uber-skilled hardcore players
 
Haven't played much yet, but getting my arse kicked on 3v3 hard.
How the hell does computer build so many units so fast.. Grrr...
At least I think I know understand all Terran units though. Just need to learn the others.
 
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