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MikeHiow said:
But it was hardly your typical nail, it was supposed to be what looks like a plasterboard plug, something that would rip a tyre open, not just go straight in.

Why would a track be any better? If anything, its probably worse. I'd say blasting up a straight piece of road is safer than driving on your limits around a track. Yes you can mock the comment by saying yes, it was clearly safe this time, but I can assure you there are many people that die on tracks all around the world, probably more than there is from going fast in a straight line on straight, empty roads.
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lulz

Race tracks are designed for offs, roads have things like barriers and kerbs and lamp posts/trees you crash on a road and you are going hit something, tracks you have something there to save you in most cases and tbh if someone dies on a track they are on the limit of the car and pushing it its sad that they do but when someone dies on a street by racing its just stupid.
 
Wait, I never said he deserved to die from his action, I said its stupid and have no sympathy, I have sympathy for Ayrton Senna and his family he was doing his job and earning a living and giving people enjoyment from his skill and died in an accident, this guy was messing about on the public road and died. Big difference.
 
MikeHiow said:
Why would a track be any better? If anything, its probably worse. I'd say blasting up a straight piece of road is safer than driving on your limits around a track. Yes you can mock the comment by saying yes, it was clearly safe this time, but I can assure you there are many people that die on tracks all around the world, probably more than there is from going fast in a straight line on straight, empty roads.
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Are you seriously condoning street racing, because it's safer than racing on a track? :confused:
 
Matt82 said:
and again, you dont know he was racing etc. did you actually make that up?
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No but I know that someone does not crash like that driving sensible, wrecks the car into something unrecognizable and kills himself and paralyzes his passenger and the car catches fire from driving the highway code way.
 
Bug One said:
Are you seriously condoning street racing, because it's safer than racing on a track? :confused:
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No, I'm simply saying that it isn't as black and white as road = unsafe, track = safe. Driving fast on the road is perfectly safe if you drive to the conditions, yet even unfortunate accidents can happen in safer situations, so without being in the drivers seat or being there, you cannot possibly comment on it.
 
cheets64 said:
No but I know that someone does not crash like that driving sensible, wrecks the car into something unrecognizable and kills himself and paralyzes his passenger and the car catches fire from driving the highway code way.
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fine, but how do you come to the conclusion he was racing or did you make that up?
 
MikeHiow said:
No, I'm simply saying that it isn't as black and white as road = unsafe, track = safe.
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A road is unsafe, the cars are not up to standard and not checked, no help on hand if you crash.

On a track you have everything you need and want when you crash, on a road its at the hands of how lucky you are.

Matt82 said:
fine, but how do you come to the conclusion he was racing or did you make that up?
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Looking at the car, the people there and what the road was being used for, its not hard to make out he was showing off or racing. Maybe he was nipping out for a paper at 1am in the morning.
 
I think you have it the wrong way around. Cars on the road are checked, they are MOTd yearly, yet on a track you can have cars that haven't been MOTd for years, or even homebrew cars built by monkeys.
 
MikeHiow said:
I think you have it the wrong way around. Cars on the road are checked, they are MOTd yearly, yet on a track you can have cars that haven't been MOTd for years, or even homebrew cars built by monkeys.
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So, you're much safer racing on the road then - because an MOT checks your car is fit for racing.
 
Yawn, I'm not saying that, there are a million factors that contribute to whether something can be considered "safe enough" (as nothing is truly safe), cheets suggested that blasting up a straight road must be dangerous because cars aren't checked, I merely showed an example of why he was wrong.

Discussions on here are becoming tiresome - there are some people that can hold decent discussions, and many more who can't but can at least hold decent argument, but then you get people picking on parts of your post completely out of context in an effort to make you sound bad because their intelligence level doesn't allow them to debate something properly.
 
MikeHiow said:
Yawn, I'm not saying that, there are a million factors that contribute to whether something can be considered "safe enough" (as nothing is truly safe), cheets suggested that blasting up a straight road must be dangerous because cars aren't checked, I merely showed an example of why he was wrong.

Discussions on here are becoming tiresome - there are some people that can hold decent discussions, and many more who can't but can at least hold decent argument, but then you get people picking on parts of your post completely out of context in an effort to make you sound bad because their intelligence level doesn't allow them to debate something properly.
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The accident happened on a corner didn't it, thats not a straight piece of road, you are doing the exact same thing picking out my posts saying I said he deserved to die? and that I am against people enjoying a leisurely drive in their car on the road, I am all for driving the law NSL roads etc. but hate this racing lark at 1am and claiming its safe and cool.

OcUK motors is always the same, call someone bad for crashing and you are a retard, like that bloke in Yorkshire on a ocuk meet driving around in the wet on NSL road and footage of him dicking about in a village then he lost it on a road and rolled it.

But thats ok .
 
MikeHiow said:
Yawn, I'm not saying that, there are a million factors that contribute to whether something can be considered "safe enough" (as nothing is truly safe), cheets suggested that blasting up a straight road must be dangerous because cars aren't checked, I merely showed an example of why he was wrong.
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Straight roads tend to have corners at either end.

I'm sorry if you're getting tired of posting, but you clearly think that you think its perfectly safe to race around at high speed on public roads. Others don't. I appreciate you enjoy it, and you've never had an accident. But neither had 'Joe'. Everyone's luck runs out at some point. After eleven years of 'fast' accident free driving, I was very fortunate that mine ran out on my motorbike whilst I was only doing 30. I'd hate to think what would have happened if I was doing the kind of speeds that were more than likely involved in Joes case.

Joe didn't deserve to die. However if you take risks often, you have to prepared to take the consequences eventually. :)
 
I rarely speculate on any accident, I wasn't there and unless it was glaringly obvious that the person in question did something ridiculously stupid, I couldn't possibly comment.

Maybe I just have a different nature to other people, but I sympathise with anyone who crashes their car, short of those doing 100MPH past a school at 3PM. I just don't agree with all this speculative stick that is being given over a dead man's driving.
 
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