Broadband optimized for Gaming :/?

I worked for a successful little ISP and found that with 8mbit adsl max you could max out a £45000 per year 155mbit BT central running at full speed with less than 20 people if you let them go full blast so how much they really give you is going to be a small improvement at best, really based on how much you trust them not to oversubscribe their central pipes or LLU equipment
 
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Just upgrade to 50MB, your upstream will then be 1.6MB which will give you lower pings. I've had pings as low as 5 while playing TF2 on 50MB Virgin Media.
 
have i missed something or since when did more bandwidth strictly equate to lower pings???

its more likely its lets congested or better routed to the server of choice.
 
exchange contention / heavy traffic and the amount of customers sharing a BT central are the bits that the ISP will be able to control helping to have a low ping for users

like I said before the only way an ISP can market good gaming broadband is simply by promising the customer that they will not share this equipment to a large group of customers

a 512k connection would be very very fast if you shared it with no one else (like a leased line)
 
Lots of dodgy info in here. Your pings won't be effected by going from 20mbit > 50mbit (despite the increased upload speed). On ADSL the only thing you need to worry about is enabling fastpath on your line (not interleave).

The issues regarding oversubscribed centrals are real though...sadly :/ The decent providers (especially decent LLU ones, such as Be) won't have this issue though.
 
FrenchTart said:
Lots of dodgy info in here. Your pings won't be effected by going from 20mbit > 50mbit (despite the increased upload speed)
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+1 played enemy territory for years and rented servers for it.. started with standard BB 1/2 meg.. gave me unstable ping, when upgraded to 1 meg BB my ping was solid at 48, upgraded to 2 meg ping stayed at 48, upgraded to 8 meg with 1/2 meg upload ping still stayed at 48.
for around 4-5 months while i was on my 2 meg connection i rented a server off a friend who had his own dedicated server with only 1 game installed to it which was my 16 slot public server :D ... all uk players had ping of around 8 and euro players pings wer around 12
so in conclusion a client cant get a better ping from higher BB speeds,

so i assume your ping is down to the bandwidth available on the server itself?? (feel free to correct me if this wrong)
 
No, because Demon = Bulldog = Cable and Wireless = Electronic Arts / Sony Online Entertainment / <insert demonic evil cash cow institution here>

Seriously, awful awful company, awful awful awful with knobs on. Stay Away
 
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No, because Demon = Bulldog = Cable and Wireless = Electronic Arts / Sony Online Entertainment / <insert demonic evil cash cow institution here>

Seriously, awful awful company, awful awful awful with knobs on. Stay Away
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lol, your hatred runs quite deep there fella
 
Unless there are actual problems with the gaming traffic on their network if you're not on a prioritized connection then the benefit from such a connection will be marginal at best.

The real thing to do if you want a fast ping with high download speeds has nothing to do with the particular package of whatever ISP you're on; begin by finding the location of an exchange in the area you wish to live. Next find the nearest house to the exchange which is for sale. Finally buy that house and enjoy your uber connection.
 
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No, because Demon = Bulldog = Cable and Wireless = Electronic Arts / Sony Online Entertainment / <insert demonic evil cash cow institution here>

Seriously, awful awful company, awful awful awful with knobs on. Stay Away
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It can't be Bulldog as they're still currently selling bulldog broadband...
 
Spektor said:
The real thing to do if you want a fast ping with high download speeds has nothing to do with the particular package of whatever ISP you're on; begin by finding the location of an exchange in the area you wish to live. Next find the nearest house to the exchange which is for sale. Finally buy that house and enjoy your uber connection.
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Even that's not foolproof, you hear of people that can see the exchange from their bedroom window but can only get 512k/bad quality line.
 
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It can't be Bulldog as they're still currently selling bulldog broadband...
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Samknows still lists Bulldog as C&W / Bulldog. From the bulldog website:

Bulldog Broadband is a trading name of Pipex Internet Limited, a TalkTalk company | ©Copyright Tiscali UK Limited trading as TalkTalk
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Blimey o'riley thats a lot of different names.

From the C&W wiki:

C&W also bought Bulldog Communications in the UK, providing it with an LLU network as well as a consumer broadband Internet service provider. During aggressive expansion it gained a poor reputation for provisioning and customer service. Falling new sales and a strategy change led C&W to sell the brand and customer base to Pipex in September 2006. It continues to own, and wholesale on, the LLU capability.
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Just like Be and O2 are both part of the Telefonica group (Good internet, terrible service if you actually have to speak to anyone.)
 
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its more than worthless they dont control all of the routing of the internet.. so they cant control how low a latency you get to anywhere apart from their own servers...

once you leave your isps servers and get routed by servers they have no control of they cant garuntee a damn thing because the problem isnt on there network.

run a tracert to a website ,look at all the hops and see how many arent owned by your isp
 
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