FYI - Lens price drops

p0ss3s3d said:
My walkabout kit weighs 5kg.

My full kitbag weighs 12kg not including the actual bag, monopods//tripods/accessories/waterproofs/stool... you get the idea.


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My walking photo kit is around 5kg as well, one of the reasons I don't really want to stick another kg or so onto it. :p
 
Amp34 said:
My walking photo kit is around 5kg as well, one of the reasons I don't really want to stick another kg or so onto it. :p
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What do you carry?

For me the 1D's and a 17-35 + 70-200. Thats all I need for 75% of the time as my walabout.

But I often carry the 300 (bit of a beast) and thats 3.1kg including the stupidly heavy hood (old version)
 
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After lugging the Sig 120-300 f2.8 around all day at an airshow I can certainly see why you'd want to save weight on a hike up a hill or two! Although I was carrying this all the time rather than in a backpack.
 
p0ss3s3d said:
What do you carry?

For me the 1D's and a 17-35 + 70-200. Thats all I need for 75% of the time as my walabout.

But I often carry the 300 (bit of a beast) and thats 3.1kg including the stupidly heavy hood (old version)
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Well it's more what I used to carry, not sure what my new lens selection weights.

Used to carry:
400D
Tokina 12-24
Sigma 24-70
Canon 300 f/3
Small tripod and head
Monopod

Although the monopod and tripid also doubled up as tarp poles so not too bad.

Now I've replaced most of that with:
400D
Tokina 12-24
Canon 35 f/2
Canon 70-200 f/4
Small tripod and head
Monopod

So probably lost about a kg or so which is all good! Need to get a 1.4TC to finish it though for the extra length. That should all fit nicely into my 38L bag with camping and other stuff.:)
 
Those are nothing !

On a wedding shoot, I turn up with

5D2/grip + 24-70 (In hand)
5D2 + 35/1.4 (over left shoulder)

In my crumpler bag (over right shoulder)

550EX
580EXii
50/1.4
85/1.8
16-35/2.8
135/2.0
20 AAs
Memory card wallet
All the hoods bar the 16-35 one.

Try that for 15 hours lol no wonder I lose a couple of pounds after a wedding !
 
Raymond Lin said:
Those are nothing !
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Since we are doing kit lists:

1DIIs - 4.2kg incl extra batteries.
17-35L - 0.6kg
50mm - 0.1kg
70-200mm - 1.3kg
300mm - 3kg
TC's - 0.5kg
Monopod - 1kg.
550EX - 0.3?kg?
Spare AA's 0.1?kg
'rubbish' (passes/tickets/memory cards/pencil and notepad - pens leak!) etc. etc. - 1kg?
Waterproofs 0.3kg?
Stool/kneepads (depends on place) - 0.2kg/0.8kg

Then either the hardcase/backpack.

Not quite as extensive as rays L selection!!!
 
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Just had an email back. Kerso currently selling the 24-70 for £879 and 135L for £715
 
glitch said:
And I'm not saying that I wouldn't too.

However, from the retailers perspective, I've paid a higher price for that lens and sold it at the profit margin that I deemed appropriate at the time. The customer willingly bought the lens and had no issue with said price at the time of purchase.

But faced with the choice of having the lens returned to me and potentially having to sell it as a second (depending on the condition of the lens and packaging) I'd be willing to listen to what the customer had to say.

But then again, I wouldn't be offering a 28-day returns policy on photographic equipment. Once you're past the 7-day cooling-off period and the lens has been 'used' I think it's fair to say that you're on your own.

If I was antc, I'd be checking the T&C's on the website and seeing where I stood. If I was within my rights to return the lens and receive a refund, I'd ask for them to credit me the difference. If I wasn't, I'd be asking for something back as a gesture of goodwill, assuming the price has dropped at the retailer in question.

And if it was a case of the latter, perhaps a credit note or voucher to the value of the price difference? That way the retailer ensures the money will be spent with them and the customer gets something they aren't entitled to, but that hopefully smooths over the cracks nicely.
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You are correct and I agree with everything you have said. I called up the store in question today and had a nice chat with a guy there and basically agreed after going through t&c and them explaing that they buy them at X therefore need to sell at X blah blah which is perfectly correct that they would refund me half the difference between what I paid and what it now costs which I am happy with! They didnt actually have to give me anything at all! So the outcome turned out well.

All in all a good deal. I must however say thanks to the thread started here for alerting me to the price drops so a pat on the back for you! :D
 
Trick said:
It depends on what you want. The f/4 is smaller, lighter, sharper. If you don't need f/2.8 then it's not a downgrade. f/2.8 is not the be all and end all. I do not automatically think that the 70/200 f/2.8 is a "better" lens than the f/4. If I did, I'd have bought the f/2.8. There are always others things to consider rather than just the f stops.... I have never missed f/2.8 on my 70/200 f/4 IS. I regularly use my f/4 IS for landscape shots and as such it's a better lens than the f/2.8 IS because f/2.8 is unnecessary for that type of work and the f/4 has better optics. The f/4 is more compact and lighter so it's less of a burden when it comes to lugging it up a mountain. In this case, is the f/4 an upgrade from the f/2.8?
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Indeed. I traded my f/4 IS for an f/2.8 IS in October last year. In the time I've had it I've found the marginal benefit of the extra stop just doesn't justify the extra weight, but that's obviously a personal thing. The other major factor was that the f/2.8 is noticably softer at f/2.8 at the long end, beyond around 180mm. As I tended to use it more at the extreme long end than other lengths, I found that I was always using f/4 as it was noticably sharper, and figured that, if I'm not actually going to use the extra stop, why put up with the disadvantages of the larger, more expensive lens.

I've therefore managed to buy back my original f/4 IS lens, nearly a year later :D I currently have both and the f/2.8 will be sold as soon as I return from holiday. The cash that's liberated from the switch will be going towards a 7D I think :D
 
Raymond Lin said:
Those are nothing !

On a wedding shoot, I turn up with

5D2/grip + 24-70 (In hand)
5D2 + 35/1.4 (over left shoulder)

In my crumpler bag (over right shoulder)

550EX
580EXii
50/1.4
85/1.8
16-35/2.8
135/2.0
20 AAs
Memory card wallet
All the hoods bar the 16-35 one.

Try that for 15 hours lol no wonder I lose a couple of pounds after a wedding !
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Perhaps, but my kit normally travels up and down hills/mountains/15-20 miles a day, with other kit, which is sort of the point. :p

I've managed to get a selection of kit that is pretty much spot on for my needs, super sharp and fast enough for what I want, whilst keeping the weight down, when walking at least. :)
 
:D

In which case I'll just point out I just spent a month lugging 70+lb bags up mountains, bushwacking large portions of it. ;)

Does that man the thread up enough for you?;)
 
Oh, and I forgot to point out the 18lb rock/pry bars, one in each hand... ;)


(Ok I lie, the pry bars were carried seperate to the bag in most cases but still...:p)
 
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