HMRC cockup - more info?
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Whats owed is owed I suppose but at risk of sounding like Kevin the teenager that's so unfair for those caught out, they should allow a flexible repayment. im screwed if I get a letter, I'm already paying back tax from after I left uni 2 years ago (£700 to start paying back next April) if I get a letter for another £1500 I'm royally screwed...
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Sounds like the computer system is doing its job and spotting where people have been unknowingly paying the wrong amount of tax.
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I think in most cases they'll get it back from changes to your tax code, but maybe not all...
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Explains why I had a letter yesterday saying i'm due a £57 rebate 
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You'd certainly hope so. Not only would it be rather unfair for them to expect lump sums, they're certain to misallocate half those payments anyway!
They have said it will be dealt with in next years tax codes (overpayments).
I don't think they really are certain to misallocate half of these payments, the problems also arrise from employment issues out of the departments hands.
Remove the unfit computer systems then!
There already has been a dramatic reduction in the last few years, roughly a 1/4. More to come for sure, but reliance on computer systems has caused the majority of paye/benefit problems over the last 5 years.
But, your not the best person to speak to about tax really Dolph. Its theft and we shouldn't have a society is your mantra.
There already has been a dramatic reduction in the last few years, roughly a 1/4. More to come for sure, but reliance on computer systems has caused the majority of paye/benefit problems over the last 5 years.
But, your not the best person to speak to about tax really Dolph. Its theft and we shouldn't have a society is your mantra.
The issue isn't the computer systems, it's the horrendous complexity of it all.
there are so many exemptions, extra liabilities, variations etc etc that it is a magnet for error and avoidance through careful structuring.
I'd have thought the idea of reducing tax avoidance would be appealing to you
Our tax system is one of the longest and most convuluted in the world, I think only India's is longer. So yes, it could certainly do with some streamlining!
Horrendous complexity of PAYE? Unless you have a job with perks, its rather simple in all honesty.
Computer systems don't deal with variations well on the whole, but I don't really care I argue black you argue white.
This is not tax avoidance dolph.
Computer systems don't deal with variations well on the whole, but I don't really care I argue black you argue white.
This is not tax avoidance dolph.
they are doing, will be taken back at around £100 a month
The tax code system is pretty horrendously complicated for no readily apparent reason, and an awful lot of people have perks of one form or another.
And anyone with an ISA is commiting tax avoidance
I'll address this as you've edited it in. My view is not that we shouldn't have a society, but that society should be proportionally funded, and no bigger than necessary, concerned with ensuring access to services, not providing the services.
Further, while I do think taxation is theft, that's the reason why it should be as small as practical, and as proportionally distributed as practical. I don't see why that is a problem.
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It's actually pretty simple if you ask me. You have the starting code, any benefits? Adjust them trough the tax code and you can avoid faffing about with a tax return. If you think our overall system is bad you should have a look at US tax, that really is convoluted