Wedding Photographer's Slideshow

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Just met with the wedding photographer who supplied us with a disc with a slideshow programme on it which presents several problems.

I cannot play the disc on a tv for my parents and cannot put the pictures onto my digital photoframe.

And more importantly I cannot fast forward the sldieshow so it is useless for reviewing photos to decide which should go into the album as I have to sit through each and everyone and cannot zoom in etc.

Is it possible to extract said photo's for the above use or is it locked into this slideshow programme tight?
 
if you look at the contents of the CD you will probablly find a folder on it called pictures or similar

have a look in their and see if you can copy/paste the folder
 
Bah - darn him. Dont fancy screen grabbing 400 photos just for the photo frame. I'm so annoyed that he wont give me a disc so that I can enjoy the photo's I commissioned ie digital photo frame. Other thanj the album I have no intention of buying or even printing the photo's. Soo annoyed. :mad:

Even added a mad face for effect!
 
Bah - darn him. Dont fancy screen grabbing 400 photos just for the photo frame. I'm so annoyed that he wont give me a disc so that I can enjoy the photo's I commissioned ie digital photo frame. Other thanj the album I have no intention of buying or even printing the photo's. Soo annoyed. :mad:

Even added a mad face for effect!

You didn't know that when you hired him?

and they are his photos, copyright belongs to him still and i am sure he will sell the Jpegs for a fee.
 
Lol - I did specifically ask and he keeps saying we'll sort it out, think he's just fobbing me off. Surely not a major copyright issue to let me put the pictures on my digital photo frame?
 
Its not about you putting it in your photoframe, screen saver, or phone or make your own pillow case from it for that matter.

It's about they belong to him, he can charge you for it. It is like Monet can charge you for painting you a painting. Now he has painted it, you paid for his time, you can buy it off him or not.

He can give you a copy, and provide you with a "licence", for a fee.

Even if he sell you the disc, he still own the copyright anyway. Technically if he finds out you give a copy of it to a family member, he can file a law suit against you.
 
What kind of cowboy did you hire? :/

I think that's a bit harsh.

To people who are on the forums and clued up, they would know what to do. But to anyone else, who probably only hires a photographer once in their lifetime, found in yellow pages most likely, and otherwise doesn't have a clue on the subject , they are hardly going to know the ins and outs of contracts, photo licensing, etc.
 
I think that's a bit harsh.

To people who are on the forums and clued up, they would know what to do. But to anyone else, who probably only hires a photographer once in their lifetime, found in yellow pages most likely, and otherwise doesn't have a clue on the subject , they are hardly going to know the ins and outs of contracts, photo licensing, etc.

He's saying the photographer's a cowboy, not the OP. A contract is more for the business's protection than anything else so to not have one is a bit crazy.
 
I think that's a bit harsh.

To people who are on the forums and clued up, they would know what to do. But to anyone else, who probably only hires a photographer once in their lifetime, found in yellow pages most likely, and otherwise doesn't have a clue on the subject , they are hardly going to know the ins and outs of contracts, photo licensing, etc.

Not the OP!

The photographer is a professional, thus should act in a professional manner. Contract, clear terms of agreement with the client etc.
 
Bah - darn him. Dont fancy screen grabbing 400 photos just for the photo frame. I'm so annoyed that he wont give me a disc so that I can enjoy the photo's I commissioned ie digital photo frame. Other thanj the album I have no intention of buying or even printing the photo's. Soo annoyed. :mad:

Even added a mad face for effect!

What a strange fellow he sounds - not wanting to give away his copyrighted work for free.
 
What a strange fellow he sounds - not wanting to give away his copyrighted work for free.

Surely wanting to enjoy the photos in a medium other than the album is not giving them away?

Eitherway it is only my wife and I making use of them in a private setting? Guest comes and views album/guest comes and casually may see a couple of photo's on frame? What is the difference? Surely not the end of his business?

Those inclined to buy from a photographer would still do so, or at least I would anyway if I wanted a physical print.

Please keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.
 
Surely wanting to enjoy the photos in a medium other than the album is not giving them away?

Eitherway it is only my wife and I making use of them in a private setting? Guest comes and views album/guest comes and casually may see a couple of photo's on frame? What is the difference? Surely not the end of his business?

Those inclined to buy from a photographer would still do so, or at least I would anyway if I wanted a physical print.

Please keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.

It is not about "Private" or public setting. It is about leaving his possession, and for that, it will cost you money.

The medium, as you put it, its where it matters MOST. By having the digital file, he CONTROLS sales of his prints and his work. By giving you the files, you say you are using it "privately", how can he trust you? He's heard it all before, you are not the first person to say that. I am not saying you are lying or will start giving it to family. But it's not the first time he's heard that so he will treat every client the same.
 
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to sound sarcastic.. Apologies.

However, what was the deal you discussed with the photographer prior to him/her shooting your wedding?

If its a case of him saying one thing and delivering something else then I am 100% on your side - however if he said he would deliver the images on a digi-photo frame and thats what you got - then he can fairly be expected to make a bit of `knock on` business from anything else you require. I charge £300 for the DVD if they opt for the album package. However this is very beneficial to me in several ways.

1. They pay £300 - great! Quids in!
2. They are ummming and arrring about booking me - I say I will chuck in the DVD "It usually costs £300!!" - this more often than not seals the deal.
3. They dont want it. I then call them back a year later and offer it to them for £100 - extra revenue for me 12 months later and they are happy as a pig in poo..

Everyone`s a winner!
 
Surely wanting to enjoy the photos in a medium other than the album is not giving them away?

Eitherway it is only my wife and I making use of them in a private setting? Guest comes and views album/guest comes and casually may see a couple of photo's on frame? What is the difference? Surely not the end of his business?

Those inclined to buy from a photographer would still do so, or at least I would anyway if I wanted a physical print.

Please keep your sarcastic comments to yourself.

another way of looking at it is to make a comparison to the old days.

In the old days, you had the negatives, and then the printed photos. Once you have the negatives, you can print as many copies of the photo as you want, as big as you want, from whatever supplier you want.

This cuts the photographer out and means he makes no money from any of the prints. So in the old days, you never got the negatives and just paid for prints of the photos. You never saw the ones that werent developed and didnt proof read them first prior to printing.

Now in this digital age, by asking for the JPEGs, you are effectively asking for the negatives. With the JPEGs you can print as many copies of the photos as you want, give them to as many family members as you want, all by cutting out the photographer. You say you just want to use them on a photo frame, but they all say that. And once he hands over JPEGs, he's got no way of enforcing how you use them.

In order to hand over the JPEGs, most photographers usually want a fee akin to printing their every photo they take. That way even if you do print all of them, the photographer hasnt lost any money. And most will know you will print several of the ones you like, possibly enlargements, and none of the ones you dont, so it will roughly even out.

This fee for printing all the photos isnt usually included in the photographers fees, as you will usually sign a contract with them, which includes a price and a stipulation as to how many printed photos it includes. To have all the photos "printed" ie in JPEG form is obviously going to cost more.

As Raymond has said, he doesnt sound a particularly professional photographer. All of this should have been explained to you at the start. We had the option to buy a photo CD with all our wedding photos on for $400 (we got married in vegas) But that was 121 photos. We didnt actually like all 121 and only had about 10 that we really really liked. We had 8 included in the package, so we bought 2 more 6x4 @ $10 each and two 8 x 10 for $20 each. In comparison the CD was $400 - because they will only hand over the JPEGs if you hand over a large fee, as it gives you unlimited license to print as many as you want, as often as you want, without the photographer earning a penny.
 
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