America does a thing (again) (and again)

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Apparently, on top of it being incredibly ‘insensitive’ for Muslims to build a mosque near Ground Zero it’s also now insensitive to show signs that Muslims (practitioners of the second largest religion in the world) exist on September 11th. That’s what the Portland Press Herald learned when they had the audacity to publish a story about the end of Ramadan on their front page that included a terrifying picture of Muslims praying. Soon, many of their readers complained and editor Richard L. Connor quickly published a letter apologizing for sullying his pages with such insensitive trash.

Here is the full text of Connor’s apology which followed the printing of this story (which was ironically entitled “A show of faith and forgiveness”):

“A note of apology to readers
We made a news decision on Friday that offended many readers and we sincerely apologize for it.

Many saw Saturday’s front-page story and photo regarding the local observance of the end of Ramadan as offensive, particularly on the day, September 11, when our nation and the world were paying tribute to those who died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks nine years ago.

We have acknowledged that we erred by at least not offering balance to the story and its prominent position on the front page.

What you are reading today was the planned coverage of the 9/11 events. We believed that the day after the anniversary would be the appropriate occasion to provide extensive new coverage of the events and observances conducted locally and elsewhere.

In hindsight, it is clear that we should have handled this differently and with greater sensitivity toward the painful memories stirred by the anniversary of 9/11.

Earlier this week, I welcomed a former colleague back into the news business.He retired at a young age after successful stints as a reporter,editor, and then publisher of one of the country’s largest newspapers.

I told him he was about to witness a new world in media, a world where 24/7 is not a cliché but a way of life for us. We literally work around the clock in order to contend with the speed of communication.

On Saturday morning, he witnessed what I was talking about.

Readers began writing to me and to our paper and website en masse, criticizing our decision on coverage and story play of the local observance of the end of Ramadan by local Muslims.

We began answering them immediately and directly by e-mail and we posted responses on Facebook, Twitter, and on our website. A good eight hours into the day, our editors were still working from home to keep up with a necessary response to our customers. Some managers came to the office on what was supposed to be a day off.

I expect no accolades for what I see as our prompt and courteous responses. Working fast, with immediacy and with concern for fairness, is just part of our reality these days.

Here is one of the responses I sent, which I believe covers a lot of ground:

‘We are sorry you are offended by today’s front page photo and story and certainly understand your point of view. Many feel the same way. We do not offer the stock excuses you cite. We should have balanced this story with one that showed our sensitivity to today’s historic importance. You will see tomorrow that our planned coverage of today’s 9/11 events is extensive, far more so than the coverage of this event on Friday. We apologize for what may appear to be our insensitivity to the historic significance of this day. Tomorrow’s newspaper will feature extensive coverage of the commemoration of today’s events.

‘Our editors believed that 3,000 persons marking the passage of a religious observance and congregating in Portland to do so was news.I believe that decision was correct but I also believe we should have handled it in a more sensitive way.’

Twice each day, a group of highly experienced editors convene to make news decisions on story coverage and story play. I do not attend those meetings but I take responsibility for their decisions. I trust the editors who make the decisions because I know how much they care about our communities and about being fair. They try hard and most days they succeed.

As experienced and as concerned as they might be, however, they are also human. They make mistakes. They also are free to voice opinions, and some of them may disagree with my stance on this issue. That’s OK. We believe in free-flowing dialogue and openness.

We have had that same dialogue and openness with our readers over the past 24 hours. Virtually all those we have heard from have been outraged over our decision on news play in Saturday’s paper. Most have also been courteous and polite.

Again, if you were offended, I apologize.

To those of you who took the time to write or Tweet, or go to Facebook, thank for letting us know your opinions and how much you care.

Richard L. Connor
Editor and Publisher”

Not surprisingly, this apology has earned its own outrage. As the USA Today noted, one of the people angry was Justin Ellis, a former columnist for the Press Herald, who had this to say on his personal blog:

“Unfortunately what Connor’s done is created a self-inflicted wound to his newspaper. By apologizing for a factual story portraying part of the community it covers, the Press Herald has damaged its ability to educate, betrayed the journalists who work there, alienated a part of their audience and shown that editorial control can be won by the power of the mob.

In offering the apology, Connor was taking a reactionary stance to an outcry from readers, over email, phone calls, Facebook and Twitter. Since I’ve never sat in the big seat reserved for publishers, this may be guesswork, but taking flak for (and defending) stories is part of the job. As he outlines in his letter, the work of assigning, editing and placing stories is a serious one that involves a large group of people, all of whom just got thrown under the bus in favor of the commenting class.”

Of course, it should be noted that Ellis’ blog, The Meat Raffle, features a mast head showcasing a picture of a bunch of meat in a butcher’s shop. Obviously he should take this down because it is insensitive coming so soon after Lady Gaga’s meat dress. And Lady Gaga should have never worn that dress because it was insensitive to PETA. And PETA shouldn’t get angry about the meat dress because it’s insensitive to Muslims celebrating Ramadan because they can’t eat pork anyway. And Muslims shouldn’t have held their 2010 Ramadan festivities because it’s insensitive coming so soon after the end of 2009. And 2009 should never have ended which is insensitive to me because I was totally in better shape last year.

Come on, folks. It’s simple sensitivity.

(By the way, that photo above is the super horrifying one that the Press Herald printed on 9/11. What’s that little kid looking at? So sinister.)


TLDR:

This is the picture that riled up the American public enough that a newspaper was forced to issue an 'apology';

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It was on a newspaper's front page on 9/10, and for some reason people didn't like it. The newspaper got a barrage of universal condemnation because a bunch of people thinks Islam is a Bad Thing, and associates the religion with 1.6 billion followers with the acts of 19 extremists who just about broke every single rule in the Koran. The editor of the newspaper in question made a gushing apology that's enough to make you squirm.

America does a thing. Not the first time and it won't be the last! This is a horrible indicator of how emblematic the problem is in American society with regard to tolerance and understanding towards one another, as well as how extreme far-right the general populace has become in the last decade or so.

Just the other week, a taxi driver was stabbed simply for being Islamic.

A massive 20% thinks Obama is some sort of secret Muslim too. Most nations have their lunatic fringe, but a massive 1 in 5?

What do you guys think?
 
9/11 was carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam (or at least in the name of their little corner/sect of it)

There has been far too little condemnation of terrorism from the major Islam clerics and imams.
 
They're unfortunately indicative of many Western Nations and the growth of (American style) conservatism based on evangelical Christianity which powers this kind of reaction.

In Britain we have a push toward intrusive secularism instead, but equally they use the current radicalisation of a very small number of Muslims to push their political agenda. We also have seen this with the imminent visit of the Pope to the UK, everyone having a pop at an entire religion because of the actions of a minority of their alleged adherents.

@rypt. Almost all the mainstream Muslim councils have repeatedly denounced and condemned terrorism and the acts themselves. Just because the national media choose not to highlight it in the same way as the negative aspects of Islam (or any religion or political group) doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
 
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9/11 was carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam (or at least in the name of their little corner/sect of it)

There has been far too little condemnation of terrorism from the major Islam clerics and imams.

That's like saying I punched a goat in the face in the name of Christianity. It does not mean the religion sanctioned or agreed with it at all. It wasn't even anything to do with the Bible. Just like 9/11.

As for the Islamic condemnation; of course they did. In fact they were incredibly outspoken against the events of that fateful day, but the media chose not to highlight them, for the same reason this editor apologized for a completely innocuous image & article...

They were deliberately given the short stick by a world that still irrationally reviles them to this day. I remember in particular the Muslim Council of Britain trying hard to get their voice across to the major media outlets, but many of them didn't even bother to highlight the consternation and condemnation - instead reserving it for the back pages and in many cases, opted not to publish at all.
 
That's like saying I punched a goat in the face in the name of Christianity. It does not mean the religion sanctioned or agreed with it at all. It wasn't even anything to do with the Bible. Just like 9/11.

There is no centralised church in Islam, which is one of it's major problems as you can act in the name of Islam (ie your little sect of it)
 
not trolling, i was asking a question.

Well, if you're seriously asking that question, then I'm obliged to question where the hell you've had your head stuck, as it it manifestly obvious to anyone with their eyes open and their ears unplugged that a great number of people believe in one God or another.
 
There is no centralised church in Islam, which is one of it's major problems as you can act in the name of Islam (ie your little sect of it)

No you cannot. This is a terrible thing to say as you are effectively lumping the blame squarely on the religion and condemning it unfairly. It doesn't matter one iota if it's centralized or not. It is against the teachings of the Koran to carry out acts like 9/11. I'm not even religious and even I know this.

That is a poor argument. There are no 'sects', there are either Sunni & Shia Muslims with a very tiny minority (numbering in the thousands if not hundreds) not in either. You can't say 'well they can do their own thing and it's certified Islam'. That's a crazy misconception and I'd like to know where you got that idea. All denominations of Islam generally strongly condemn and forbid terrorist acts, no matter the cause.
 
There is no centralised church in Islam, which is one of it's major problems as you can act in the name of Islam (ie your little sect of it)

There's plenty of Christians who don't subscribe to the Church of England, the Roman Catholic Church, or even the smaller groups like the Methodists or whoever.

If a non-affiliated Christian kills someone, and claims they did it in the name of Christianity, do we condemn Christianity?
 
No you cannot. This is a terrible thing to say as you are effectively lumping the blame squarely on the religion and condemning it unfairly. It doesn't matter one iota if it's centralized or not. It is against the teachings of the Koran to carry out acts like 9/11. I'm not even religious and even I know this.

That is a poor argument. There are no 'sects', there are either Sunni & Shia Muslims with a very tiny minority (numbering in the thousands if not hundreds) not in either. You can't say 'well they can do their own thing and it's certified Islam'. That's a crazy misconception and I'd like to know where you got that idea. All denominations of Islam generally strongly condemn and forbid terrorist acts, no matter the cause.

To be fair, there are many more schools of Islam than just the Shia or Sunni. They are simply the most common interpretations.
 
LOL :rolleyes:

people can belive in what they want, dosn't make it "real"...

It does to them. Reality is ultimately subjective to the perception of the individual.

You cannot prove that their God is not real, at least to them so you cannot make such a 'factual' statement.
 
LOL :rolleyes:

people can belive in what they want, dosn't make it "real"...

Are you even following your own train of thought?

You asked if people think religion is real. I said that yes, plenty of people do believe in God. You said that they can believe what they want, but that doesn't make it real, which is true, but the entire point is that they believe it, so they do in fact think it's real. You, apparently, don't, which is fine, but that doesn't mean that other people don't think that it is.
 
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didnt know it would upset someone that much. if it has then sorry, ill delete it just for you ;)

I think you'll find that it will take far more than some infantile attempt to belittle his beliefs to upset Vonhelmet tbh.

You could give it a go though, it'll be fun watching you crash and burn...:p
 
Take it easy guys, I wanted a thread to lay into the Americans, not each other :p

The bottom line is that there are many people out there with a disgusting notion of Islam that is totally out of place of a supposed developed nation like the US!
 
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