OcUK Poker Thread.

Originally Posted by el_dazza

Great, then THIS happens.

Donk raises to $10 pre-flop
I call with KQ suited
Flop K-9-3 rainbow. I bet $12, he calls.
Turn Q, 2 clubs on board. I bet $20, he calls.
River 6, no flush. I bet $28, he puts me all in.

Can I get away from this now? No, I bloody can't. I call and he flips over 10-J, hit his gut-shot which just so happened to make my 2 pair
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platinum87 said:
I dont see anything wrong with his play only yours, in that hand.
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I can see why he called your flop bet, I think 95% of people would call that just to see if he could catch on the turn, and unfortunately he did, which put u in the **** :/
 
platinum87 said:
I dont see anything wrong with his play only yours, in that hand.
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So you can put him on one of the 6 hands that can beat me? You're better than I am then..

If you think top 2 is no good on the turn in that situation then you'd probably be a millionaire :/
 
I can't really see the problem other than you could possibly have been a little bit more aggressive with your bet when you hit the top two pair.

Your betting was weak enough to make him thing your hand wasn't that strong, and to also make it worth his while to call for a hit.
 
tombrr said:
I can see why he called your flop bet, I think 95% of people would call that just to see if he could catch on the turn, and unfortunately he did, which put u in the **** :/
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el_dazza said:
So you can put him on one of the 6 hands that can beat me? You're better than I am then..

If you think top 2 is no good on the turn in that situation then you'd probably be a millionaire :/
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I just dont like calling with KQ and then donk betting 50% of pot into him.

.5/1 stakes, dealt KK on the button, 1 limper, i raise to $3.50, BB reraise to $12 limper goes all in for $190 i fold. BB calls, BB = QQ, Limper = AA
 
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Hi all,

I have been playing poker for arounf six months now and decided I want to up my game. I have a book I am reading through (Brunson) but just using it as a guide (I think poker is too varied to have strict rules to follow).

However, I am thinking of signing up to deuces cracked for a month to see how I get on. I have withdrawn $30 from my pokerstars winnings/ bankroll to use but wanted to know what everyones thoughts were on it.
 
platinum87 said:
I just dont like calling with KQ and then donk betting 50% of pot into him.

.5/1 stakes, dealt KK on the button, 1 limper, i raise to $3.50, BB reraise to $12 limper goes all in for $190 i fold. BB calls, BB = QQ, Limper = AA
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Well if that's not an obvious lay-down.. laying down KK pre-flop isn't exactly hero stuff. It's hard, but there are times when you can do it, that's clearly one.

$12 into $20 is 60% ;)

Plus it's a bit of a taster bet as well, trying to find out where I was. If he had AK he may have thought I was trying to steal and would let me hang myself again on the turn. As it turns out, I had top 2 on the turn, so I thought I was laying the trap as such. I did put him on AK once he flat called the flop admittedly, kinda fell in love with it and it cost me. Plus on the flop he's getting what, 2.6/1 on a 7/1 shot? Not a great call there really.
 
Wardie said:
I can't really see the problem other than you could possibly have been a little bit more aggressive with your bet when you hit the top two pair.

Your betting was weak enough to make him thing your hand wasn't that strong, and to also make it worth his while to call for a hit.
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He had already hit when the turn card came.
el_dazza said:
So you can put him on one of the 6 hands that can beat me? You're better than I am then..

If you think top 2 is no good on the turn in that situation then you'd probably be a millionaire :/
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What is the idea behind your flop bet? Bearing in mind he's raised preflop, when you make your bet on the flop...
... does he call with much that you beat?
... and does he fold with much that has you beat?
 
Mate is playing one of the WSOP-E events tomorrow, he should be fine as it looks like a crap field, a few of the donks playing this one

Helmuth

Ivey

Dwan

Greenstein

Boatman

Boeree

Huck Seed

Esfandiari
 
Rotty said:
Mate is playing one of the WSOP-E events tomorrow, he should be fine as it looks like a crap field, a few of the donks playing this one

Helmuth

Ivey

Dwan

Greenstein

Boatman

Boeree

Huck Seed

Esfandiari
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my mate is going well, was down to 900 after 2.5 hrs after his QQ was beaten by Q6

he then managed a runner runner straight when all in, followed by his 77 hitting on the river to beat AA

was on 25k a short while ago, chip leaders on days 1A and 1B finished on around 40-45k

approx 80 expected to make day 2 with 60 cashing, £600k prize pool
 
just had a call, made Day 2 , 80 left , pays 54


he has 34.6k ave 21.8k

reckon he will look a bit odd in our pub game with a wsop bracelet :p
 
Rotty, let us know how he progresses, good luck to him.

When playing do you guys frequently count your outs, pot odds and implied odds?

I have not been calculating them as such but basically I have been roughly assessing my outs then making a decision based on that, my position, the strength of my hand and their betting.
 
Wardie said:
Rotty, let us know how he progresses, good luck to him.

When playing do you guys frequently count your outs, pot odds and implied odds?

I have not been calculating them as such but basically I have been roughly assessing my outs then making a decision based on that, my position, the strength of my hand and their betting.
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when appropriate you must work out outs pot odds, implied odds are a little more subjective but need considering

this is link to my mates tourney

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?rr=5&grid=767&tid=10971&dayof=1664

he is Paul Pitchford

considering the strength of the starting field there are not many big names left, I am off to Vegas with him Friday so hopefully some off ghis good run will pass on to me
 
What do you mean by when appropriate? I would take that as being when you're not totally confident and there's some doubt about whether or not you should continue to play your hand?

There's a few books which look quite useful that i'm going to pick up and get working my way through, I don't suppose you have any recommendations?

Also - Do you guys mostly play just cash tables or SNGs etc? I think I actually prefer low stake SNGs etc over micro steak cash games as I seem to suffer less bad beats etc.
 
Wardie said:
What do you mean by when appropriate? I would take that as being when you're not totally confident and there's some doubt about whether or not you should continue to play your hand?

There's a few books which look quite useful that i'm going to pick up and get working my way through, I don't suppose you have any recommendations?

Also - Do you guys mostly play just cash tables or SNGs etc? I think I actually prefer low stake SNGs etc over micro steak cash games as I seem to suffer less bad beats etc.
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you need complete information to work out true pot odds

for example if there are only 2 in a hand and one goes all in and the other has a nut flush draw then you can fairly accurately work out your odd of wiining

If there is a 3rd player with a bigegr stack and the board was also paired then things become much more vague as it may cost you more to see all the cards and you still have a chance of being beaten

online I play 6 max SNGs and live play large field MTTs

re books

for Tournaments then Harrington on Hold em


for Cash No limit hold em theory and Practice by David Sklansky
 
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