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Just had a very 'ironic' game. It was TvT, and there were three ironies in total: 1~ I rushed his rush with 3 reapers to his 2, which met in the middle of the map but closer to his base 2~ I nuked his 4 Ghost Academies before he could nuke me! 3~ It was a re-match with the same person who won by SCV-rushing (:rolleyes:) in the game just before, but I avenged that by beating him proper the second time! :D Yay! :p
 
on the plus side I think that TvT might actually become an interesting matchup after the patch. The players will begin to use the millions of units at their disposal rather than just mass tanks with viking battles for air control.

PvP might be less about 4 gating, although it'll probably just go back to 1 base collosus.
 
frankly I don't think tank nerf will change current tvt its either mass tanks and vikings or mass marauder which actually works better than tanks / vikings.

Just had a TvT and whole game I was thinking how the hell did this guy get into diamond, it was such an easy game, he played like a beginner, then I checked out his amp it was in 70's but he didn't do exactly much. Weird
 
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Protoss players check this out I did not see this one coming frankly when I saw he was massing zealots I thought I had this game but boom, lol this game cheered me up ;)

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84021-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns

Feel free to tell me how bad i am probably deserve it.

Zealot rush at its best, very first time anybody did that to me, taken note of for the future.

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And another guy pulling chargealot opening on me, what do you toss players think? Seems pretty strong, if I would have went for expo I wouldn't have had enough units to take it I think here's replay, he just really suprised me again with fast chargelots and high templars

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84046-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns forgot to post the ling to the replay
 
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Nerusy said:
Protoss players check this out I did not see this one coming frankly when I saw he was massing zealots I thought I had this game but boom, lol this game cheered me up ;)

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84021-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns

Feel free to tell me how bad i am probably deserve it.

Zealot rush at its best, very first time anybody did that to me, taken note of for the future.

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And another guy pulling chargealot opening on me, what do you toss players think? Seems pretty strong, if I would have went for expo I wouldn't have had enough units to take it I think here's replay, he just really suprised me again with fast chargelots and high templars

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84046-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns forgot to post the ling to the replay
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will watch when I get home from school (I wish there was an iPhone app to watch replays lol)

but generally, if he can tech to chargelots and HT's quickly, he'll be either severely lacking in units or gateways, in which case just roll his front with marine marauder. Another option is load a medivac with a few marauders, drop next to his templar archive/twilight council, stim, and kill it in like 8 seconds.
 
Nerusy said:
Protoss players check this out I did not see this one coming frankly when I saw he was massing zealots I thought I had this game but boom, lol this game cheered me up ;)

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84021-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns

Feel free to tell me how bad i am probably deserve it.

Zealot rush at its best, very first time anybody did that to me, taken note of for the future.

.......

And another guy pulling chargealot opening on me, what do you toss players think? Seems pretty strong, if I would have went for expo I wouldn't have had enough units to take it I think here's replay, he just really suprised me again with fast chargelots and high templars

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/84046-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns forgot to post the ling to the replay
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Chargelots are going to be pretty awesome once tanks are nerfed. Still if you see him massing zealots with a scan, and laying a citadel, I'd go for a cloaked banshee/marine build which will stomp n* zealots.
 
Milkybk said:
If have seen countless replays from good P players who put early pressure on with stalkers! Just watch Husky/Warlion anyone really!

I wall off very effectively against Protoss on a regular basis. If I see early pressure coming I simply build more marines and stick a tech lab on a 2nd barracks further back (if that's the build I am going for). You can simply leave a gap in your wall and throw a bunker down too.

I like to force a Protoss player to get an observer if they want to see my build etc. While most players will get one anyway if you stop their scouting they are forced too get one. Unless they want to tech blind of course.
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Kiss your supply depots and probably 5-6 marines good bye if you do this.

Stalkers range 6, marines range 5. Add in the supply depot space and they have a significant advantage. Plus, they have regenerating shields. They can send one stalker up for vision, take some hits, move it back, move the other one up and let it tank while the other one regenerates shields.

I almost never lose against a wall-in terran if the rush distance is sane.

Bunkers shut it down tho, or as Nerusy said, don't wall at all, and get fast rauder+conc. Although I've tried a new build against even that, and there's a nice way to exploit that opening.
 
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Minato said:
will watch when I get home from school (I wish there was an iPhone app to watch replays lol)

but generally, if he can tech to chargelots and HT's quickly, he'll be either severely lacking in units or gateways, in which case just roll his front with marine marauder. Another option is load a medivac with a few marauders, drop next to his templar archive/twilight council, stim, and kill it in like 8 seconds.
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Not really he had more zealots then I marauders, it was before I could produce medivacs, he wasn't lacking in units nor gateways. Pretty strong opening if you ask me.

@kar I don't think its a zealot build, its just an opening then he can just go for the usual warpgate ball with HTs on the side, which he did pretty much if it wasn't for dark templars mistake of his.

and if I would have gone with marine / banshee his chargelot push would have melted away my marines and I'd only have 1-2 banshees to just hold off the attack and then no harass possible because he can just warp in 4 stalkers in a second and then HT's own banshees. So what do I have with that marines that melt away to zealots and storm* and banshee that die to feedback. Nah man, it wouldn't work.
 
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I concur. Good that it was first game as well so people who haven't paid for GOMTV's vods can watch the first game of a series for free.

Although good luck to GOMTV for keeping it off youtube anyway :)
 
mart981 said:
I concur. Good that it was first game as well so people who haven't paid for GOMTV's vods can watch the first game of a series for free :)
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Ahh didn't think of that. EVERYONE should watch that game. 30 minute clinic on how not to give up =]
 
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