"By nonsense" I mean "ATi issues" as the same people pretend nVidia don't have any issues, when they often have the same problems. So to clarify, "ATi have loads of problems compared to nVidia" is the nonsense.
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Would this solve ATI's problematic drivers?
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"By nonsense" I mean "ATi issues" as the same people pretend nVidia don't have any issues, when they often have the same problems. So to clarify, "ATi have loads of problems compared to nVidia" is the nonsense.
Nope, but do you have a general idea as to what your good friends do at work? We talked shop sometimes, he had some interesting behind the scenes stories.
Now I present to you, using the amazing powers of Google: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/10/03/without-twimtbp-pc-gaming-would-be-dead/1
Hahahaha *points*. They're killing games
Yea the message is wrapped in the usual layers of Nvidia PR bull, but it does give some figures that fans of team red were questioning. Anyway, thought is was taken for granted that NV put a lot more human and financial resources in developer relations endeavours than AMD/ATI do.
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Only for their own gain.
They are a business not a charitable organisation. I find it strange that people think otherwise.
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Thay do this to lock ATI out.. such at that Phyxs code lock out and only useing one CPU core for Physx... when on an ATI card.
Nvidia spend money to BUY games and lock ATI out
Pure PR crap & games were around before NV & games will be around after them & it makes out like NV sponsors for full game development which they do not.
NV pays for the adds in games & optimization for there cards & no more.
Its like saying if ATi didn't not sponsor dirt2 there would be no dirt2.
You asked and I provided (reasonable) proof of the claims. Nvidia have always had a very active development relations team, my friend used to always have stock of the latest and greatest hardware on hand to hand (bribe lol) out to devs.
Anyway, this thread is done, stick a fork in it and the usual clichés will come steaming out. I'm bailing out here folks.
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Good read, so Nvidia are keeping the PC gaming scene alive? respect.
Well it depends what you mean by an awful lot. I have used Nvidia cvards for about 10 years and only ATI for the last 1 year. So i don't know a great deal about ATI I guess other than what I read but the thing is with drivers is you shouldn't NEED to know a lot about them. You should just be able to download them install them and that's that. Iv'e never had GFX driver issues ever until i bought an ATI. But as i said they are only minor problems which i have worked around.
You have also quoted the words "advice" and "broken" Both of those words i never even used
If you had even bothered to read my 2 posts in this thread before commenting and quoting me then you would see I was looking for opinions on what I thought would possibly be a good idea. Where did I say that ATI drivers are "broke"? I also never said that ATI have a distinct problem compared to Nvidia. I once again have no idea where you got that idea. I have an ATI card so it was ATI this thread was about. Not a comparison thread.
I might not know a great deal about drivers Kylew, but seemingly you don't know how to read a thread and understand what it is about. I'd say that makes you slightly more clueless "no offence"
Feel free to carry on making remarks up that make no sense though. Quite amusing.
I was just kinda hoping for replies to this thread giving pro's/con's (good idea, bad idea) as to the merits of whether ATI should release separate drivers for different cards in their range and just general discussion regarding this. Is that so hard to understand?
The point is in spite of what they have they still had 6 months of bad vista drivers so the amount they spent is irrelevant.
Well it depends what you mean by an awful lot. I have used Nvidia cvards for about 10 years and only ATI for the last 1 year. So i don't know a great deal about ATI I guess other than what I read but the thing is with drivers is you shouldn't NEED to know a lot about them. You should just be able to download them install them and that's that. Iv'e never had GFX driver issues ever until i bought an ATI. But as i said they are only minor problems which i have worked around.
You have also quoted the words "advice" and "broken" Both of those words i never even used
If you had even bothered to read my 2 posts in this thread before commenting and quoting me then you would see I was looking for opinions on what I thought would possibly be a good idea. Where did I say that ATI drivers are "broke"? I also never said that ATI have a distinct problem compared to Nvidia. I once again have no idea where you got that idea. I have an ATI card so it was ATI this thread was about. Not a comparison thread.
I might not know a great deal about drivers Kylew, but seemingly you don't know how to read a thread and understand what it is about. I'd say that makes you slightly more clueless "no offence"
Feel free to carry on making remarks up that make no sense though. Quite amusing.
I was just kinda hoping for replies to this thread giving pro's/con's (good idea, bad idea) as to the merits of whether ATI should release separate drivers for different cards in their range and just general discussion regarding this. Is that so hard to understand?
The problem has nothing to do with separate drivers as they all use there own path.
The bugs will still be there in separate drivers for each card as its the code that counts & not how separated it is.
I don't think they are a charitable organisation, in fact, claiming them to be saviours of PC gaming is such a claim on your behalf. When I say their gain, I'm talking about at the expense of others.
Well it depends what you mean by an awful lot. I have used Nvidia cvards for about 10 years and only ATI for the last 1 year. So i don't know a great deal about ATI I guess other than what I read but the thing is with drivers is you shouldn't NEED to know a lot about them. You should just be able to download them install them and that's that. Iv'e never had GFX driver issues ever until i bought an ATI. But as i said they are only minor problems which i have worked around.
You have also quoted the words "advice" and "broken" Both of those words i never even used
Suggesting an alternative way is advice, you say feel free to shoot you down, yet you take issue when being shot down? As for not saying ATi drivers are broke, no you didn't say that, explicitly, but then we look at the thread title " Would this solve ATI's problematic drivers?"and it makes it pretty clear what you mean. Or, what about this part?
lol
For some one claiming I can't read threads, you seem to be forgetting a lot of what you've said yourself.
I refer you to my last points.
Sounds like advice again to me.
You started a thread, asking for opinions, I gave my opinion on what you've said, I didn't make up anything you said, I might not have replied to what you said in a word for word fashion, but I think you're being a bit pedantic with your wording. If you said something was "small" would you take issue with me saying "tiny" instead? As that's what you've done here.
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Rather than "defending" a company, I'm discussing the facts of something some one started a thread about. You know yourself that there's loads of people here that go on about how ATi drivers barely work and then claim nVidia drivers work *always* without fault. Both aren't true at all, and it's tiresome seeing this repeated by people, the same people who claim nVidia never have problems, but then in nVidia driver threads go on about all the problems they're having.
Come on Raven, it wasn't long ago that you were raging about ATi cards "stuttering" only to start a thread complaining about how your GTX480 was stuttering in most games.
I'm not defending ATi, but rather pointing out the misinformation that people (purposefully) constantly spout. I'm not claiming ATi don't have driver issues, it's an impossible situation for there to be no driver problems. ATi and nVidia have roughly the same amount of problems, you can't clearly claim one is more reliable on the driver front than the other.
Yup, I was there man, in the trenches. Defending our glorious leader from those dirty reds. It was harsh man, seeing friends and buddies go down in a hail of troll posts. But then the cries went out! 'For PhysX' one cried, 'CUDA or Death' shouted another, and that was it, with our faith renewed we pushed back against the reds..
Sounds like you're suffering from flashbacks.
