My First BMW

fonzee · 1 Oct 2010 at 22:12

shifty_uk said:
I must be in the minority but those are utterly, utterly vile. Aesthetically horrendous.

i'm the same. quite shocked how many people are commenting on the looks in a positive way!

just looks so awkward. havn't aged well either.

DM · 1 Oct 2010 at 22:40

I think thats a mile in front of the convertible ones.

Andr3w · 1 Oct 2010 at 23:13

I'm loving the front end of the car, looks brilliant....however to me the back looks like a hurst

Fr0dders · 1 Oct 2010 at 23:16

Andr3w said:
I'm loving the front end of the car, looks brilliant....however to me the back looks like a hurst

Hurst you say ?

PikeyPriest · 1 Oct 2010 at 23:18

Lovely!

I`m a big fan of both the Z3 coupe (M slightly edges it over normal) and Z4M coupe.

Berger · 1 Oct 2010 at 23:20

NickXX said:
Widowmaker . Although I guess that was more the z3m.

Edit, wow - worldwide production numbers for the z3 coupe:

2.8: 7,671
3.0: 3,853
3.2M: 6,291

Very rare cars.

Whats the split of the 3.2M engine wise?

Mostly on the older or newer engine?

[TW]Fox · 1 Oct 2010 at 23:31

NickXX said:
Widowmaker . Although I guess that was more the z3m.

Edit, wow - worldwide production numbers for the z3 coupe:

2.8: 7,671
3.0: 3,853
3.2M: 6,291

Very rare cars.

16,000 is quite a lot - it's 3 times more than the total UK sales of 530i Sports

Gooner14 · 2 Oct 2010 at 00:01

NickXX said:
Widowmaker . Although I guess that was more the z3m.

Edit, wow - worldwide production numbers for the z3 coupe:

2.8: 7,671
3.0: 3,853
3.2M: 6,291

Very rare cars.

It's not really that dangerous imo. Yes in the wet if I floor it it will spin, but it's not that bad. In the dry it's very planted, admittedly mine isn't standard though.

Berger said:
Whats the split of the 3.2M engine wise?

Mostly on the older or newer engine?

S50 S54
1998: 88, 0
1999: 243, 0
2000: 159, 0
2001: 2, 59
2002: 0, 57
2003: 0, 1

So only 117 of the later s54.

Colour break down:
red 48
yellow 45
green 23
blue 165
grey 7
silver 139
white 1
black 116

That's what's left in the UK

[TW]Fox · 2 Oct 2010 at 00:06

Hmmm shouldnt those Style 32's be staggered?

Spamalot · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:00

For us simpletons...

Do the Z Coupes contain the E36 or E46 M3 engine in?

Chives · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:13

Spamalot said:
For us simpletons...

Do the Z Coupes contain the E36 or E46 M3 engine in?

The early ones had the E36 Engine, the later ones had the E46 engine.

Spamalot · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:15

Chives said:
The early ones had the E36 Engine, the later ones had the E46 engine.

Wow, what MY did the E46 version come in? This seems like a realy strong investment, no?

:confused:

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:20

Spamalot said:
For us simpletons...

Do the Z Coupes contain the E36 or E46 M3 engine in?

Both IIRC. Early ones got the E36 engine, later ones the E46 unit. I think the change was 2001.

Chives · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:21

Spamalot said:
Wow, what MY did the E46 version come in?

2001 onwards.

MagicBoy said:
Both IIRC. Early ones got the E36 engine, later ones the E46 unit. I think the change was 2001.

Only 7 minutes to late.

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:26

Chives said:
Only 7 minutes to late.

Was busy reading the thread ...

Assuming lack of sleep isn't making me crazy it wasn't the full house E46 engine - was about 20bhp down and only had a 5-speed box I think.

Spamalot · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:30

MagicBoy said:
Was busy reading the thread ...

Assuming lack of sleep isn't making me crazy it wasn't the full house E46 engine - was about 20bhp down and only had a 5-speed box I think.

Yep, that's what I've just been reading. The change only managed to shave a couple of 0.1s of the 0-6 time, not that 0-60 is everything obviously!

Spamalot · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:31

Spamalot said:
Yep, that's what I've just been reading. The change only managed to shave a couple of 0.1s of the 0-60 time, not that 0-60 is everything obviously!

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2010 at 01:33

Spamalot said:
Yep, that's what I've just been reading. The change only managed to shave a couple of 0.1s of the 0-6 time, not that 0-60 is everything obviously!

Sounds about right. I really should stop subscribing to Top Gear mag. Just filling my head with useless crap!

Sin_Chase · 2 Oct 2010 at 05:48

Coupé is much nicer than the fugly convertible. Looks tidy but those door handles need colour coding ASAP!!!

NickXX · 2 Oct 2010 at 10:13

Gooner14 said:
It's not really that dangerous imo. Yes in the wet if I floor it it will spin, but it's not that bad. In the dry it's very planted, admittedly mine isn't standard though.

S50 S54
1998: 88, 0
1999: 243, 0
2000: 159, 0
2001: 2, 59
2002: 0, 57
2003: 0, 1

So only 117 of the later s54.

Colour break down:
red 48
yellow 45
green 23
blue 165
grey 7
silver 139
white 1
black 116

That's what's left in the UK

Wow, tiny number of them! Phoenix Yellow and LS Blue were special colours for the S54.

Spamalot said:
Wow, what MY did the E46 version come in? This seems like a realy strong investment, no?

Yeah, values of all M Coupes seem to have stuck very well for the last few years. The S54 in particular. The S54 also has all the e46/e39 M stuff like the new dash cluster, tyre pressure warning and DSC.

MagicBoy said:
Both IIRC. Early ones got the E36 engine, later ones the E46 unit. I think the change was 2001.

One thing to note though is that the S54 M Coupe is rev limited to 7,000rpm so doesn't make the full 343bhp that it does in the e46 M3 (It made 325bhp). It also never had the S54 recall done for the bottom end bearing shells, although this shouldn't be an issue with the lower rev limit.

IIRC it was something to do with not being able to fit the same exhaust manifold/exhaust system as the e46 due to packaging issues.