McDonalds Goop™ *note, the video in the first post has NOTHING to do with McDonalds*

What ? For the prices they offer? McD is REDICULOUSLY expensive, 2.95€ or so for 6 nuggets, for the same price you can get 900 grams ( about 6) of drumsticks in a supermarket.

The 6 chicken nuggets contain only meat, they have been produced, coated and then cooked and packaged for your convenience.

900g of drumsticks contains at best 250g of meat (and that includes the skin) and frankly you'd be up in arms of McDonalds tried to sell you skin or untrimmed dark meat.

Plus it's probably Brazilian or Thai meat.

And Holland is probably the only place left in Europe where they still routinely tumble meat to add fluids to it that bumps up the raw weight.

Seriously, the drumsticks are well dodgy.;)
 
pft fatties ;) i don't even eat mcdonalds.. :O now you know what they use to make your favourite poopy pinkies..
 
Which MRM are you referring to? The stuff that is passed though a fine screen, the stuff that is massaged off the bones or the stuff that gets rubbed together so meat comes off the bones?

The fact is that the butchery process leaves meat on the bones and carcass. People do want to eat cheaply, and they want to eat mince. Modern techniques using low pressure can ease that residual meat off so gently that it does not alter the muscle structure at all. In fact that's the legal definition for Mechanically Recovered Meat. If the muscle structure isn't substantially different to that of butchered, minced, meat then it's not mechanically recovered and this meat is widely sold throughout the UK as pork or beef.

Greggs would go out of business if they stopped using 3mm minced pork as the product is called.

Anything that results in "meat" being a paste.
 
Who gives a ****?

Personally I see it as a good thing it has a mouth to butt use of the animal.

Also, that picture + explanation was posted on reddit years ago; where it was disproved.
 
Expensive sausages use natural casings (sheep or pig intestines) while cheaper ones use collagen casings. That;s why cheap sausages are all uniform and expensive ones are all odd shapes and sizes.

Is it wrong that I'd rather have the cheap ones in that case :o


Any way of getting the nicer filling in a less horrible case :p
 
And Holland is probably the only place left in Europe where they still routinely tumble meat to add fluids to it that bumps up the raw weight.

Seriously, the drumsticks are well dodgy.;)

I know for a fact this is still done in the UK. I am on a site which still carries this out to customer specification.

If a customer requests injection or tumble then we do it. It is not the manufacturers who choose which products are bulked up but the customer who it is going to.

The controls on food production are mind boggling. The audits from the likes of Tesco and M&S which are routinely carried out ensure that the food you eat is produced to a consistent standard and is of an extremely high quality.

The kind of stuff portrayed in that pic on the link does not go into any chicken based product produced by the business I work for. We produce over 700 tons of finished breaded chicken products every week from a single factory and there is more than 1. Not a single kilo of pink/red goop is used in making ANY of that.
 
Made recently in the UK?

Sorry I couldn't say, I'm not at home, but chances are they are, so it'll be better than the paste?

I'm actually curious as that "jimmys food farm" introduced me to MRM/MSM and I just assumed it was all like that.
 
Isn't there a big difference between mechanically recovered meat and mechanically reconstituted meat?
 
I know for a fact this is still done in the UK. I am on a site which still carries this out to customer specification.

If a customer requests injection or tumble then we do it. It is not the manufacturers who choose which products are bulked up but the customer who it is going to.

I'm not saying it's not done, but it's not done routinely. And you're not doing it on a pack of 4 drumsticks.

The controls on food production are mind boggling. The audits from the likes of Tesco and M&S which are routinely carried out ensure that the food you eat is produced to a consistent standard and is of an extremely high quality.

LOL - I've just completed my 100th BRC audit (all A grade of course:p) and I hate TFMS audits which are now much tougher in my opinion than M&S audits. Can you give me a hint where you work? Are you with the Sisters, the former Scots, the Southern Irish, the Northern Irish or are you with the 'Valley?


The kind of stuff portrayed in that pic on the link does not go into any chicken based product produced by the business I work for. We produce over 700 tons of finished breaded chicken products every week from a single factory and there is more than 1. Not a single kilo of pink/red goop is used in making ANY of that.

Indeed. It's just not done in the UK anymore.
 
Sorry I couldn't say, I'm not at home, but chances are they are, so it'll be better than the paste?

I would think so.

I'm actually curious as that "jimmys food farm" introduced me to MRM/MSM and I just assumed it was all like that.

Unfortunately they don't generally show boring food programmes, so they seem to feel this overwhelming need to make people feel guilty about eating. I'm not a great believer in a Vegetarian plot, but I do think that TV producers like to turn the excitement up to 11 and if that means a few farmers lose their livelihoods, it's OK apparently.
 
I think reconstituted is that pink gloopy crap, reclaimed is "actual" meat, that is my understanding of it.

Unfortunately they don't generally show boring food programmes, so they seem to feel this overwhelming need to make people feel guilty about eating. I'm not a great believer in a Vegetarian plot, but I do think that TV producers like to turn the excitement up to 11 and if that means a few farmers lose their livelihoods, it's OK apparently.

Well quite, but its the same with everything, they will sway towards the bad stuff because it's more interesting, I am a case in point :)
 
I think reconstituted is that pink gloopy crap, reclaimed is "actual" meat.

I dunno depends how literally it applies. Making 100% ultra expensive steak into a burger patty would be mechanically reconstituting it if taken literally.
 
Isn't there a big difference between mechanically recovered meat and mechanically reconstituted meat?

As far as I'm aware (he says furiously leafing through the legislation) there is no such thing as mechanically reconstituted meat in the EU Regulations so anything you're reading that off wasn't produced in the EU. MRM is Mechanically Recovered Meat or Mechanically Separated in the regulations.

The EU has REALLY tightened up on what you can put on a label and it gets tighter every year) but imported products just have to get past the people at Customs who basically check it's 'safe' and 'legal'.
 
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