Man imprisoned for not giving police password.

[jamesblade]

He sounds like he touches kids tbh.

Glad your not on the hangmans jury

Maybe the guy just doesn't like people going through his stuff ?

 

[Hamish]

Seriously...just brute force the damn thing.

Or better yet, reset it by other means...not exactly hard =/ Especially whenthe police have the resources, its an exscuse tbh

lol, I don't think you understand the amount of effort it takes to break encryption.
Assuming he is using something like AES (probably) and the password is 50 characters as it says.
If you dedicated 100% of the CPU of every computer in the whole world including supercomputers to brute forcing it, I guarentee you that he would have died of old age before the password was broken.

edit assuming there are 50 characters and there are only uppercase, lowercase and numbers then there are this many possibilities for the password:
416,470,721,148,178,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

FYI the number of atoms in the universe is around
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

 

[antijoke]

He does look like an odd 'un.

 

[Richie]

So do you think drink drivers who refuse to give a breath sample should be let off scot free?

Obvious straw man is obvious.

The punishment for failing to provide a specimen is very harsh so no one gets off scott free.

 

[Kethridge]

After the 16 weeks to my knowledge he will not be able to be prosecuted for the same offence in the same case.

 

[apatia77]

He could have easily lied that the password is 50 characters so they won't bother cracking it.

 

[Wicksta]

Obvious straw man is obvious.

The punishment for failing to provide a specimen is very harsh so no one gets off scott free.

Ahh the old 'straw man' card when a comparable example puts things inconveniently into perspective. Both are examples of a suspected offender being punished for witholding evidence that only they can give access to and which would prove either innocence or guilt.

 

[RDM]

Ah the old "he looks like he's guilty so he must be" what happened to evidence, innocent till proven guilty and stuff.

I didn't think there was any doubt to his guilt? He has refused to hand over a password, therefore he is guilty of refusing to hand over a password and has been jailed for it. Quite possibly he thinks the 16 weeks in prison is worth it for what could be hidden in the encrypted volume.

 

[Delvis]

lol, bs.

Not really

Do you understand the cryptography involved? You can't brute force it before the universe melts and there is nothing to 'reset'.

Yep...You could, it would just take time naturally...Hence why it isn't used much in these cases

lol, I don't think you understand the amount of effort it takes to break encryption.
Assuming he is using something like AES (probably) and the password is 50 characters as it says.
If you dedicated 100% of the CPU of every computer in the whole world including supercomputers to brute forcing it, I guarentee you that he would have died of old age before the password was broken.

Well I do, as i've worked along side various HTC units in the past and they've had to deal with far worse.

But nevermind, send it to an actual unit and it will get done in time

 

[yhack]

Let's say you have one password which decrypts the data and one which just deletes everything, what would happen if you gave the police the deleting one 'by accident'?

 

[Richie]

They have enough evidence to sieze his PC, somit goes a bit beyond your standard "nothing to hide" discussion.

Sorry to disillusion you but an anonymous "tip" seems to be sufficient for police to raid someone's house if it relates to supposed child porn.

Also, what if he doesn't actually have this stuff on there but wants to hide other stuff like terrorism info etc ?

 

[Delvis]

Let's say you have one password which decrypts the data and one which just deletes everything, what would happen if you gave the police the deleting one 'by accident'?

Still possibly recoverable, depending on the removal method

 

[tntcoder]

Not really



Yep...You could, it would just take time naturally...Hence why it isn't used much in these cases



Well I do, as i've worked along side various HTC units in the past and they've had to deal with far worse.

But nevermind, send it to an actual unit and it will get done in time

Sorry but assuming a strong password it's incredibly improbable you will ever recover the password due to the vast size of the search space.

 

[233]

Let's say you have one password which decrypts the data and one which just deletes everything, what would happen if you gave the police the deleting one 'by accident'?

you would get done with obstruction i'd imagine

 

[Burnsy2023]

you would get done with obstruction i'd imagine

Doubtful.

 

[Hamish]

Let's say you have one password which decrypts the data and one which just deletes everything, what would happen if you gave the police the deleting one 'by accident'?

well unless the police were really stupid they would mount the volume as read only and/or create a backup first.

 

[Delvis]

Sorry but assuming a strong password it's incredibly improbable you will ever recover the password due to the vast size of the search space.

I'm not talking about brute force now

 

[Wicksta]

Sounds like you could get a job in MI5 Delvis.

 

[muon]

Let's say you have one password which decrypts the data and one which just deletes everything, what would happen if you gave the police the deleting one 'by accident'?

They probably have several copies of the drive.

 

[Vonhelmet]

I'm not talking about brute force now

What are you talking about then?