Turbos

One of those remaps that claims 50bhp and you get half that?

No, one that claims 45bhp and you get exactly that :)

Iam well aware a turbo is far easier to tune, if i wanted to smoke Focus ST's on a straight for a living id of bought a Skyline R33 GTR and stuck a giant turbo on, or if i wanted to mod my car for more power i wouldn't have bought a DC5.

But we aren't talking about your car, we are talking about the the various merits of both turbo and NA cars.

But what it will beat an ST in is, looks, driving position, steering feel, brakes, handling, gearbox is a bazillion times better, MPG, seats, etc.:D

I recognise the DC5 is better in many of these aspects, but then its a car with a completely different purpose. But then you think a Carrera 2S is dull and boring, so I'm going to disregard everything you've told me about the DC5.
 
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It's boring compared to what else you can have for the money, and there common as muck.

I have no doubt there quality cars, but they don't appeal to me in the slightest. The only 911 id take is a GT3, and thats after ive driven it a bit, and then id sell it.:D

So Will Gill there low on torque so what? Do you enjoy the fun of driving, especially quickly? So whats so bad about changing gear and revving a car? A quality manual box is often over-looked, something Honda's tend to have.

Like ive said, turbo cars aren't quick when the turbo isn't spooling up anyways, and theres this little thing called turbo lag, which can be quite shocking on some cars.

yes out VTEC they are so slow they don't move.:rolleyes:
 
Not everyone's, just idiots like yourself who have little or no clue.

If you extend the N/A Vs Turbo argument to supercars it becomes even less rosey.

All the best supercars are N/A, maybe a few exceptions with CCX and GT-R, and F40, lol.
 
Not everyone's, just idiots like yourself who have little or no clue.

If you extend the N/A Vs Turbo argument to supercars it becomes even less rosey.

All the best supercars are N/A, maybe a few exceptions with CCX and GT-R, and F40, lol.

what like the Quad N/A Veyron? or the Twin N/A SSC Ultimate Aero? those are the three fastest supercars on earth at the moment
 
It's boring compared to what else you can have for the money, and there common as muck.

I have no doubt there quality cars, but they don't appeal to me in the slightest. The only 911 id take is a GT3, and thats after ive driven it a bit, and then id sell it.:D

So Will Gill there low on torque so what? Do you enjoy the fun of driving, especially quickly? So whats so bad about changing gear and revving a car? A quality manual box is often over-looked, something Honda's tend to have.

Like ive said, turbo cars aren't quick when the turbo isn't spooling up anyways, and theres this little thing called turbo lag, which can be quite shocking on some cars.

yes out VTEC they are so slow they don't move.:rolleyes:


And of course Hondas are rare as rocking horse ****.

Have you actually driven any of these cars you are slating?
 
It's boring compared to what else you can have for the money, and there common as muck.

I have no doubt there quality cars, but they don't appeal to me in the slightest. The only 911 id take is a GT3, and thats after ive driven it a bit, and then id sell it.:D

So Will Gill there low on torque so what? Do you enjoy the fun of driving, especially quickly? So whats so bad about changing gear and revving a car? A quality manual box is often over-looked, something Honda's tend to have.

Like ive said, turbo cars aren't quick when the turbo isn't spooling up anyways, and theres this little thing called turbo lag, which can be quite shocking on some cars.

yes out VTEC they are so slow they don't move.:rolleyes:

Thanks, that really is the nail in the coffin, now I know for sure that I do not need to argue with you. You've shown everyone here that you know nothing about cars :)
 
And of course Hondas are rare as rocking horse ****.

Have you actually driven any of these cars you are slating?

I think the answer is a firm no to that. Surely nobody could be THIS blinkered to VTEC. Rather have a little rev mad Honda over a Porsche turbo? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
 
All the DC5 fans in here have their heads in their hands.

Smokey - just give it up, it's all getting a bit random and clearly if you'd take a DC5 over a 911 then you're either deluded or you've been drinking too much fizzy pop and sniffing mums knickers.
 
Veryon? Ugh.
Noble? Yeah ok
911? lol
No.

Where did i say id have a DC5 over a porche? I just wouldn't spend money on one, when theres a lot better stuff out there.

Ok cya Mike. :D

What would you spend say 50k on then out of interest?
 
If i could afford to drop 50k on a car, maybe try import a NSX-R but doubt thats doable for 50k.

TVR Sagaris probably or a Ferrari 355, or a Nissan GTR if i was feeling more sensible, the only turbo i would have.
 
Hows it random? There all cars.................. explain.

Or are people just going to mock without actually producing any valid points?

Mike's already left in his ST.
 
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