Emigrating to South Africa

Don't they have all sorts of racial quotas for jobs and businesses? Like you MUST have a black partner if you own a business.
 
groen said:
But broadband is expensive thanks to the monopolised telephone company
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Um, no it's not. I pay R219 a month for uncapped account on a broadband service.
groen said:
telkom and the governments restrictions. (as usual) If you have just finished school and have never had a job and you are white then south africa is not the best place to be. You can get by, but there is just a lot more opportunity in london or the uk for that matter (although with unemployment as it is, that does not look much better). It is definitely more difficult to live in south africa, job wise, money wise. You can't get a job at pick n pay (tesco) doing teller work and afford to live the same standard of living you would here. A lot of my friends in sa still live with their parents way in to their mid 20s because it is just so difficult to get going there. I can ramble on for a while about this...
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I am sure you can ramble on this for a while because thats all it is - ramblings.

I am 22 - I have my own place and my own car. I am white - and have a decent job. My brother is 19 - white and works as a electrician. Either of us finished schooling here in the SA. Yet we got jobs easy enough.

My mate who is 20 - has just bought a Polo GTi 2008 and is moving into his own place next year when his gf moves up from Durban to JHB. He is also white and has a decent job.

Having said that I am by no means saying that it is very easy to get a job - it just takes persistence. Also a positive attitude.

So - before making such remarks like you have - I suggest you stay here for more than a year or so and then give what would be a valid opinion.
 
kwerk said:
Don't they have all sorts of racial quotas for jobs and businesses? Like you MUST have a black partner if you own a business.
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No they don't. :rolleyes:

Matt - no problem - here is my email address: robert (dot) clegg (at) gmail (dot) com
 
When i was there they did have that law. My dad owned a business in south africa and was forced in to hiring a coloured worker because of affirmative action laws.

Of course white people can get jobs but unless you have a specific skill or have experience it is difficult to get by. Unless it has changed radically in the last 4 years.

It seems broadband has changed.. wow R219 for unlimited broadband, for some reason i just don't believe that. Last i heard it was R800 per month for a uncapped local with 3gb international cap that would cut off completely (lol). Then there was the wireless internet that was trying to get going, forget the name of it.

But work a side it is a great country, great place to live. But there are many south africans that are very pessimistic about the country.
 
Ovr said:
The only other concern I have is that I have type 1 diabetes but after some research it seems that all medical aid packages are tailored for chronic medicines like insulin etc. Something I'll have to ask Ice On Fire about maybe :D
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There is virtually no free healthcare in SA, but a lot of mid-high level jobs do include this as part of the package. If you have to pay yourself it is getting expensive (I pay for my Mom's insurance and the costs have risen massively of the last 3 years)

I left SA not because of the violence, which is high (don't kid yourself - murder rates are 25-30 times higher than here), but because of the opportunities in the UK. If you earn a decent amount the lifestyle in SA is fantastic, but if not it can be tough. Jobs are hard to come by (25% unemployment compared to 7.8% here) and there are a lot of skilled workers struggling.
 
I had good experiences with the health care system in south africa, i much preferred it over the NHS. any day. My mother actually flew back to south africa to have plastic surgery on her noes in a private hospital. because it was cheaper and of a high standard.
 
groen said:
It seems broadband has changed.. wow R219 for unlimited broadband, for some reason i just don't believe that. Last i heard it was R800 per month for a uncapped local with 3gb international cap that would cut off completely (lol). Then there was the wireless internet that was trying to get going, forget the name of it.
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Three massive fiber links are/have been laid to connect East Africa including SA to asia and middle east. This has seen a huge drop in costs and bandwidth restrictions.
 
groen said:
It seems broadband has changed.. wow R219 for unlimited broadband, for some reason i just don't believe that. Last i heard it was R800 per month for a uncapped local with 3gb international cap that would cut off completely (lol). Then there was the wireless internet that was trying to get going, forget the name of it.
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The name is iBurst for the wireless Internet.

Also www.mweb.co.za - you will see there 219 for an uncapped account. :cool:
 
do you own a shotgun? if not it might be time to get a license for one..

not my country of choice tbh, all the south africans i know left for pretty big reasons: crime, corruption, quality of life.
i know a few of them that are still trying to get the rest of their family out of there.

yes england aint all that, but on the most part you dont have to fear getting shot just so they can steal your R 50

did i read this right that youv only been with her a year? little rushed no?
 
Ovr said:
I've been to South Africa and lived there on a temporary holiday permit for 30 odd days at a time about 4 times over the past 10 months. If I'm totally honest it's not something I *really* want to be doing but my fiancé cannot move to the UK at present so to be with her I am going to go to Cape Town to be with her.

I have absolutely no intention of going anywhere other than Cape Town =D
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Why can't she move to the UK? Visa reasons? Or a need to be back in SA for some family thing?
 
Bes said:
Define 'nicer'.

And yes I lived there for nearly 18 months so I know it too ;)
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Weather :D, Quality of life, Traffic, Beaches, the people, Weather, big houses for cheap, Scenery, Wine and the Weather.

Obviously there are some downsides including crime (which is mostly limited to the townships and gang areas) and then the work issue, with BEE and AA making it difficult to find work, and then the pay sucks (but stuff is cheap here anyway).

Ive lived in Cape Town for half my life, and then in London for the other half. Strangely enough I experinced more crime in West London than in the Southern subs of Cape Town. I once stupidly left my back pack on the back seat of the car, some chop came along, smashed the window and took all my Uni text books :rolleyes: But that's all in 10 years.

Where were you for those 18 months?

Can't wait til i'm back, I absolutely hate it here
 
19 years in Cape Town (4 of which saw me heavily involved in the club scene) and I had no instances of myself, my family or my friends being affected by crime.

Within 3 years of living in London I was mugged at knifepoint by 3 teenagers at my front door near Canary Wharf.

Doh!
 
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