child benefit to foreign kids
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lol
These benefits don't exist as a measure to encourage work or helps residents of other countries. They exist to ensure that UK society is such that the overall welfare is satisfactory.
If you are taking a more noble standpoint about helping people regardless of location, that simply isn't the way the world works and for some very good reasons.
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the amount given should, at the very least, be reduced to reflect the cost of goods in their home country.
I think they should scrape child benefit full stop and put the whole thing into the tax credit system.
Income support could be adjusted for people with families over single people and it would be allot more fair.
I'm one of the "higher tax payers" that has in theory (as i dont have kids yet) just lost out because the torys are going to cut my ability to claim but frankly I dont see it as something i should morally have been claiming anyway.
Income support could be adjusted for people with families over single people and it would be allot more fair.
I'm one of the "higher tax payers" that has in theory (as i dont have kids yet) just lost out because the torys are going to cut my ability to claim but frankly I dont see it as something i should morally have been claiming anyway.
Lol, I don't agree with people whining about immigrants sponging off the benefit system usually but this sentence made me laugh.
If their not a citizen of the UK, why should you pay anything for them? Let their country pay for it, jeez, if the UK government was going to pay child benefits to every European country we might as well declare ourselves bankrupt.
The immigrants pay their National Insurance, they are eligible for their benefits.
You misunderstand the concept of socialism, please move along and/or wait for the next Labour government.
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The whole benefit culture is a fraud.
Hell if you can't afford to have kids, then don't have them!
Hell if you can't afford to have kids, then don't have them!
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they may currently pay, but may not have been paying for the previous work they did in another country.
therefore attacting foreign workers who come to the country and claim some kind of benefit from the moment they get their first pay cheque may infact make it economically unsound for us to do this.
especially when we have such high unemployment ourselves.
Spurious logic. I'm sure plenty of people's assessments of whether they can afford kids is based around the additional benefits that they can claim from the government.
I'm not sure of the implications of being in the EU on all this. It might be that we are obliged to make the benefits available to them.
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This! Don't you think this is incredibly wrong? The only reason that is stopping myself and my missus having a child right now is the lack of funds and a house big enough to house us all. Are we one of the only couples with morals?
There's nothing immoral about claiming what you are entitled to. Under the present system, the benefits are available, and your NI is paying for them, so why wouldn't you regard them as available income? It would, however, be immoral to claim what you are not entitled to i.e. the absurd disability benefit claims in this country. That's what the real immorality lies.
Oh no, I've eaten all the pies and now I'm too fat to work! Disability benefit please!
Oh no, my ***** husband is too fat to work! Carers allowance please!
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Actually, I strongly agree with you on that one. But my point was, people who have kids for the sole purpose of claiming enough money so they don't have to work, they get a house practically given to them, and live a very comfortable life. Gets me angry!
Except the EU worker has a child to support, is resident in the UK & paying UK taxes and is therefore eligible for the various benefits/deductions available.
Really am not seeing the problem here - aside from the usual jingoistic nonsense from tabloid readers...
'immigrants stealing our jobs' - if your job can be 'stolen' by a person with minimal qualifications, who doesn't speak English as a first language and who comes from a poor country then perhaps you should have worked harder at school.
