I also think what a lot of people forget is the 911 is a 4 seater. Sure, it's no saloon car but many owners have youngish kids and buy the 911 because they can plop Isabel and Rodney in the back and go to the polo or local chav shoot. I have several friends who take the 911 over the Cayman S BECAUSE they need the back seats.
Porsche 911: All the same, crap to drive, just crap!
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What exactly has that got to do with anything?
Forgive my ignorance but I assume a GT3 Cup that you state as 2nd and 3rd is not a road spec factory car.
i was more referring to the fact the GT3 RS came in 4th and drove half way across germany road legal with nothing more than a tyre change.
The fact that the 2nd and 3rd place finishers were GT3 Cup (effectively Porsche Cup GB Race cars) shows that the only ones who beat the GT3 RS - were dedicated race cars. The GT3 RS was still street legal. 13th overall and 4th in class for a road car is a monumental achievement
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I don't know what inspired this thread but I don't know how anyone can say any of these cars are dull, slow, ugly etc etc
I had the pleasure to be driven in my boss's 650bhp 997 (or 6 not sure) and never been so scared in my life. It had complete new suspension, brakes, custom setup... mind blowing.
It only got sold on for a 430 Scud, which has now been sold for a 458 lucky sob .... I do remember him commenting though that the old Porsche was the most insane car he'd ever had (it was purchased after selling his 360CS!!!! which says something)
I had the pleasure to be driven in my boss's 650bhp 997 (or 6 not sure) and never been so scared in my life. It had complete new suspension, brakes, custom setup... mind blowing.
It only got sold on for a 430 Scud, which has now been sold for a 458 lucky sob .... I do remember him commenting though that the old Porsche was the most insane car he'd ever had (it was purchased after selling his 360CS!!!! which says something)
What exactly is the the problem with the Honda? The NSX will do a very similar job to a decent 996 C2S (at least on paper)
If I find getting lumped in with the anti-Pork brigade because I won't acknowledge the 911 as a supercar or I find a vanilla Carrera leaves me cold, I'm heading off for a sulk.
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GT-R owner (2008 Autocar Best Drivers Car Winner)
Yours,
GT-R owner (2008 Autocar Best Drivers Car Winner)
So the year before last year you.
I like GT3's and there had been some recent 911's are bobbins bow locks and spotted this on another forum and thought I would share it. I am often inspirational however, my school told me I was special, even put a sign over the entry gate of the school to welcome me each morning.
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That makes sense
I still pine for a GT3, I still remember seeing a yellow 996 GT3 on Whiteladies road in Bristol. Awesome machine.
WILL HAVE ONE - & IF NOT AN NSX - ONE DAY!
I don't understand this, have you driven a 911 (996 onwards) Porsche has been perfecting the 911 model for almost 50 years now, they have managed to make a car which blends in, but is still renowned for being an amazing drive, whilst being reliable and easy to live with day to day. This all comes with 350bhp and a pretty awesome engine note, a completely different set up (rear engine) to all other road cars, how your 20 year old jap car with less power, probably less feedback, and ability will get your pulse racing more baffles me.
Just because a car is common doesn't mean it is ordinary, there is a reason these things sell by the bucketload.
Which 911 have you driven out of interest?
I managed to get my 60 year old mum in the back and my dad sat in front (6 foot of him). It wasnt the most roomy but was ok for a 30-40min journey.
The back seats in the cab are less usable as well as they lean forward due to the folding roof.
I think its definately plausible as a second car if you have a kid or two and pack light (haven't got kids yet but have seen a few 911's with a child seat in). Ive not had a service yet but in the 18mths I've had mine (done around 8,000 miles) its cost me £600 in tyres so far (and ~£1200 for warrenty - runs out Apr 2011)
until you have actually been in a porsche driven properly I suppose I could understand how people might find them "boring", once they have experienced one at full tilt, the "boring" looks make a lot more sense. They havent changed the designed massively because they work so so well. I don't mean shoving your foot down and accelerating briskly either, thats about as revealing as guessing whether a girls waxs her front bottom or not. Leaving it down to your imagination and assumptions. Imagine the pleasant surprise when you actually find out for real.
lets face it we all enjoy/prefer a shaven haven after having test driven one....
lets face it we all enjoy/prefer a shaven haven after having test driven one....
How many of anti NSX people have actually driven a NSX? Very few if any. Heck, I suspect some weren't even aware of it's existence, but that hasn't stop some calling it crap
.To be honest my opinion is very much like Fett's. I do not consider a vanilla watercooled 911 to be anything close to a supercar. I can appreciate what the job that they do and suspect that they are very good cars but they simply do not excite me. I don't really have to drive something to get a good idea if it'll raise my pulse or not. Actually if the car is doing it's job properly, my pulse should be racing well before I strap myself into the driver's seat
How many of anti NSX people have actually driven a NSX? Very few if any. Heck, I suspect some weren't even aware of it's existence, but that hasn't stop some calling it crap
But apart from the NSX what other jap cars have that kind of ability, bit of an anomoly and not really as relevant considering the mental prices they still warrant, good cars but not for the prices they command! Is some of the NSX hate meant in jest though. Joshy I suspect if you had 20k to spend you wouldn't be looking at a 15 year old nsx.
Housey that looks perfect except for the orange repeaters!!
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GT3 RS also won the Evo group test this month against the M3 GTS, Nissan GT-R V Spec and Jaguar XKR 75.