First watercooling build, need a "spec me".

The Primochill LRT UV red looks pretty good, any other suggestions? I don't think I'll be far off buying these parts, apart from the U2-UFO Case
that I decided on. Got a friend living in Birmingham who's asked if I want to go stay at hers for a weekend. Which is more important than a
new case (took me a long time to work that out though!).
 
kalvindeane said:
Also, how many fittings am I going to need, and in what size? The pump states that it uses 3/8 barb fittings,
the rad says "Standard G1/4 female threaded fittings", and I'm sure what fittings the CPU Block needs.
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Not quite. The G1/4 refers to the thread of the bard that screws into the rad not the actual barb size. G1/4 seems to be a standard size fitting for rad, res, pumps etc but you just get a fitting with that G1/4 with the right size compression fitting or barb you want.

As for the number - just count how many times you tubing will stop and you will have your number of fittings.
 
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Not quite. The G1/4 refers to the thread of the bard that screws into the rad not the actual barb size. G1/4 seems to be a standard size fitting for rad, res, pumps etc but you just get a fitting with that G1/4 with the right size compression fitting or barb you want.

As for the number - just count how many times you tubing will stop and you will have your number of fittings.
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Thanks for clearing that up :)

That's 8 fittings I believe? Rad, Res, Pump, Block..
 
What's the difference between the Lund POM and Lund POM Plex in terms of performance? I realise the difference is that it's made
out of Plexi, what does that mean in real world usage?

Edit: I've decided that I will get the MM U2-UFO Duality (case that can fit 2 rigs!).

I *think* a quad rad may fit in the front of the case, though it might only take a triple, so I'll get whatever I can fit in it :D

WC Components List so far:

Bitspower Fittings,
Black Ice SR-1 360 or 480,
Swiftech MCP350 10W 12V DC Pump,
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-088-EK,
Lund POM Res (not flexi, unless told to get the flexi),
Primochill Pro LRT red tubing.

Further edit: Will I be needing grills/housing for this rad? AFAIK I won't require the housing, unsure about grills though...:D




.....this will be so much better than Nath's build :p
 
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kalvindeane said:
What's the difference between the Lund POM and Lund POM Plex in terms of performance? I realise the difference is that it's made
out of Plexi, what does that mean in real world usage?
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The POM plex is not made out of plex glass but out of the same aluminum as the standard POM but has a window cut in it to see your coolant.
As for performance, they are both the same.

Talking about performance, the EK block you have linked to is not the same as the one that has been previously suggested.
The version you have linked to is the LT one & the one that has been recommended is the EK-Supreme HighFlow CPU Block - with the acetal top fitted.

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/cpu-blocks/ek-supreme-hf-acetal.html

or if you want a nickel block

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/cpu-blocks/ek-supreme-hf-acetal-nickel.html

As for the ufo, if you purchased the Extended U2-UFO CYO you will be able to put 120.4 rads in the side of the case.
If you purchase the standard ufo, then you will only be able to fir 120.3 rads.
 
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the EK block you have linked to is not the same as the one that has been previously suggested.

As for the ufo, if you purchased the Extended U2-UFO CYO you will be able to put 120.4 rads in the side of the case.
If you purchase the standard ufo, then you will only be able to fir 120.3 rads.
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Sorry, I do understand the difference between the blocks, I just linked the wrong one by accident :)

As for the case, the Extended U2-UFO CYO is very expensive! Though I suppose the space for 4 rads is quite handy!

I suppose the horizontal MB tray isn't necessary, but I think I might get it, just for the crack!
For the options on the Extended U2-UFO CYO, I've chosen the following:

  • Additional Options:
  • Acrylic Color: Smoked Grey
  • Back Panel Fan Spacing: 25mm
  • Back Panel Type: Standard
  • Finish: Black Wrinkle
  • Front Panel Fan Spacing: 25mm
  • Front Panel Type: Standard
  • Horizontal MB brace: Yes
  • Motherboard Tray: mATX/ATX
  • Side 1: Acrylic Panels
  • Side 2: Acrylic Panels
  • Side 3: Triple Quad

Anything that needs chaning there? I think the Smoked Grey Panels would look nice (as far as I can tell,
they actually look like tinted black, and don't actually look grey? :p)

The Yate Loon fans that ocuk stock are 25mm, and the Phoyba G-14's (which look nice!) are 25mm too, so
I'm assuming that the Front and Back Fan Spacing should both be 25mm.

Does the Back Panel Type need to be anything except standard? I guess having the Duality Back Panel Type
means that if I wanted to later, the Extended U2-UFO CYO could fit in 2 rigs as well, or is it for some other
purpose? What about the Front Panel Type too, does the standard for this case mean that it has 6x 120mm
fan holes, and 6x 5.25" bays?
Or would I need to have the "Duality" Front Panel Type for that?

'Tis all very confusing! I'm pretty sure I want the Front Panel Type that has 6x 120mm fan holes anyway :p

The WC looks pretty solid, apart from OCUK not having the Black Ice SR-1 480's in stock. I can get the
EK-CoolStream RAD XT (480) for around £75, is it worth buying?

All-in-all, if I were to buy the case with the options listed above, plus the following; the total would come to around £725.
  • Cable braiding
  • Heatshrinks
  • Hoseclips
  • 2M of Primochill Pro LRT red tubing (2 should be plenty just for CPU, I think?)
  • EK CoolStream Rad XT (480)
  • EK-Supreme HF - Acetal + Nickel Block
  • 6x Phoyba Nano-G 14 Silent Waterproof 1000rpm fans (4 for rad, 2 as case fans?)
  • EK-PSC Fitting 10mm - G1/4 Nickel (x8, I think that's all I need as far as fittings go? please correct me!)
  • Black Lund Pom Res
  • 4x Yate Loon D12SL-12 120mm Fans for one side of the rad

*Edit*: That's my list of all components I can think of, please remind me of anything I might have missed out!
My max budget is £800 tbh. Are there any particular Hoseclips I should buy?
 
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kalvindeane said:
the total would come to around £725.
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Ouch! I was thinking about trying out WC(CPU+GPU) for the first time, I know this is including the price of that case etc but think i better re-consider(or atleast until bank allows:)) if it's going to cost anywhere near that :D:D
 
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Mayfair said:
Ouch! I was thinking about trying out WC(CPU+GPU) for the first time, I know this is including the price of that case etc but think i better re-consider(or atleast until bank allows:)) if it's going to cost anywhere near that :D:D
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Hehe, I'm not going to be holding back money-wise. This'll be my first ever WC rig too (infact, it's on
my first rig I ever built a couple of months ago, and I've only built one rig since then, a crappy am3
quad rig for £300 lol)!

You don't have to spend this much though ;) It seems like something that's really worth doing,
I say that we both go for it :) If you do, make a build log and post a linkie in this thread so we can
check it out :cool:

I bet you could get both CPU + GPU for £300 or under, I remember OCUK had a WC system that
cost around £230-£300 anyway, depends if you want everything colour-coded and what
quality components you select :)

Hopefully after having this uber-l33t rig, I'll finally get a job as a techy/system builder somewhere!
 
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If you go back to the mountain mods web page you can see what your case will look like by picking the "flash cyo-picker" at the top of the page.

As for 25mm spacing, you do not want that, you want 15mm unless you can pick up a few old Thermochill rads (these were the only ones that used 25mm & never in the 120.4 version)
 
As for the case

Duality for the front (gives you the option of extra rads in the future & this is the version you talk about - 6 fans + 5.25 bays)
Big window for the left (don't have all acrylic as you will not have any ware to hide cables)
Triple quad for the right panel
Big window for the top (the same reason as the left window)

I would also go for a vertical motherboard tray as some people report overheating issues with the motherboard if its horizontal.
 
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These are pictures of a pinnacle 24 in black texture with a gray window.

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and this is a white pinnacle 24 with a gray window

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the black case with white lighting at night

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Duality for the back also?

*edit* Thanks for pointing out the Flash CYO Picker!
Mirror Black Powdercoat looks nice!

Would having the Duality option on the back be of
any use? Thinking it may come in handy for whenever
I buy a new rig (2-3years I hope!)

Or maybe the triple standard at the back, more room for
another rad (I doubt I'll even need it though? I think it
can fit 3x quad rads anyway..)
 
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kalvindeane said:
Duality for the back also?

*edit* Thanks for pointing out the Flash CYO Picker!
Mirror Black Powdercoat looks nice!

Would having the Duality option on the back be of
any use? Thinking it may come in handy for whenever
I buy a new rig (2-3years I hope!)

Or maybe the triple standard at the back, more room for
another rad (I doubt I'll even need it though? I think it
can fit 3x quad rads anyway..)
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Mirror black does look nice but shows up fingerprints very easily & can be a nightmare to keep clean.
A few people have them shipped in as raw aluminum & have them powder coated/ painted the colour they want for a lot less money.

As for the back, I would pick the standard or the triple standard.
Most probably go with the triple.
 
Hmm starting to look more like £775 now ha! I suppose you get what you paid for though :)

Is the EK-CoolStream RAD XT (480) good quality? It's a fair bit cheaper than the Black Ice SR-1 Rad, and it's in stock atm..
 
kalvindeane said:
You don't have to spend this much though ;) It seems like something that's really worth doing
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Yes it does seem very good and somthing i've always wanted to do in my last 3 or so builds but funds didnt allow it really:D

kalvindeane said:
I say that we both go for it :) If you do, make a build log and post a linkie in this thread so we can
check it out :cool:
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Yes defo mate, If i do go ahead and do it, i'll post a build log(You'll have to excuse the poo camera i have:p)

kalvindeane said:
I bet you could get both CPU + GPU for £300 or under, I remember OCUK had a WC system that
cost around £230-£300 anyway, depends if you want everything colour-coded and what
quality components you select :)
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That seems more reasonable, Though i was reading up last night and it seems my new Gigabyte GTX460 1GB is a NON-Reference card so i cannot put that under water, If i do go ahead i'll have to either sell this card and get a reference card or just do a CPU-Only loop :(

I'm sure your build will be awsome once finshed mate, Looking forward to reading your build log:cool:
 
kalvindeane said:
Is the EK-CoolStream RAD XT (480) good quality? It's a fair bit cheaper than the Black Ice SR-1 Rad, and it's in stock atm..
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I can not comment on the EK rad as I never used one but the reviews do say it does the job.
If it was my monies, I would go with the SR-1 (I have one of these & its excellent) or one of the new ThermoChill rads (I have one of the older versions & thats also excellent).

If you are going to spend this sort of monies, then do not rush things.
Stock turns up all the time
 
The problem with water cooling is its expensive & addictive.

If you want to save some monies, then go with the EK.
You can always add more rads as time goes on & the habit develops.
 
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