Sainsbury's wouldn't sell me a beer...
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This is easier than carrying ID? Your ID must be hella heavy
Sarcasm aside, I agree in principle (not at the ease stance because that's ridiculous), all these measures are purely treating nothing but the symptoms, it's time we as a country looked at the root causes and did something about them.
This is easier than carrying ID? Your ID must be hella heavy
Sarcasm aside, I agree in principle (not at the ease stance because that's ridiculous), all these measures are purely treating nothing but the symptoms, it's time we as a country looked at the root causes and did something about them.
stupid attitudes like those that outlined by the police dont help.
One of the articles i posted had a statement by police that said giving alcohol to under 18s was "dangerous and irresponsible"
I'd argue completely the opposite - if you dont teach your children about alchohol at a young age and help them learn to respect it - you're being irresponsible.
We've already started our 8 year old on watered down wine. Its about 15 % wine and 85 % lemonade, and in a small wine glass, but now at family dinners and stuff he thinks he's having wine.
Come being a teenager, alcohol wont be something thats daring and off limits for him. Its the continental way to do things and it seems to work for them.
The attitude that the moment they turn 18, a switch is flicked inside their heads which all of a sudden means they are safe to drink alcohol as much as they want is far more dangerous than the attitude of conditioning children to alcohol.
The americans have the same problem - very strong stance on under age drinking, ID'ing people in the supermarkets who look under 50, heavy fines, high drinking age of 21 or even 25 in some states.
And Come their 21st, they go absolutely mental for the first time and need to get their stomach pumped.
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thats the way it is in the US.
They are ridiculously strict on alcohol. Thats not down to some store clerk failing to use common sense, thats just an american thing that everybody get's ID'd
We got it at the liquor store in vegas, just the same as we did at wallmart in florida.
They are ridiculously strict on alcohol. Thats not down to some store clerk failing to use common sense, thats just an american thing that everybody get's ID'd
We got it at the liquor store in vegas, just the same as we did at wallmart in florida.
None of your articles discuss the issue of the legality for a shop of selling alcohol to a proxy buyer.
However, I'm looking at the legislation again, and I think I could be reading s151(3) Licensing Act 2003 incorrectly.
I trust that my acknowledgement of my error will be treated with the usual sensitivity that one expects on the Internet...
There is an offence, but as said its the individual buying who commits the crime, not the shop for selling them.
Well, I hope that the lesson is that reading legislation is hard, and that it's not a wonder that people get mixed up with all this stuff...
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I sat the license back in 2000 ish. It was pointed out to us that while you should refuse people who are drunk, the only legal determination of drunkeness was the level for drink-driving. So in theory you should refuse anyone who had had more than a pint
I managed to get into trouble at Tescos as well when me and the kids (4 & 6) were using the self service. They love doing the scanning, so I let them do that and I bagged. The cashier who looks after the self service got very put out when my 6 year old scanned a bottle of wine and passed it to me. She thought I was breaking the law. I didn't. TBH I don't know which of us was right, but I still got the bottle of wine, so I'm claiming it was me
I managed to get into trouble at Tescos as well when me and the kids (4 & 6) were using the self service. They love doing the scanning, so I let them do that and I bagged. The cashier who looks after the self service got very put out when my 6 year old scanned a bottle of wine and passed it to me. She thought I was breaking the law. I didn't. TBH I don't know which of us was right, but I still got the bottle of wine, so I'm claiming it was me
Similar thing has happened to me in the past.. but it is what they are told to do(I've worked in a supermarket and know all about their guidelines 
!) and you know, even if they just screw up once, they can get a fine and maybe even charged for it.
BOO!
!) and you know, even if they just screw up once, they can get a fine and maybe even charged for it.BOO!
I sat the license back in 2000 ish. It was pointed out to us that while you should refuse people who are drunk, the only legal determination of drunkeness was the level for drink-driving. So in theory you should refuse anyone who had had more than a pint
I've often wondered what the legal definition was in regards to that part of the act, seems like you could take any pub to task on it if you wanted to.
I managed to get into trouble at Tescos as well when me and the kids (4 & 6) were using the self service. They love doing the scanning, so I let them do that and I bagged. The cashier who looks after the self service got very put out when my 6 year old scanned a bottle of wine and passed it to me. She thought I was breaking the law. I didn't. TBH I don't know which of us was right, but I still got the bottle of wine, so I'm claiming it was me
She authorised the sale, her problem at that point.
It's anyone you know to be under the influence of drugs or alcohol, at least that's the wording that's been used on the various licence related things I've done. It leaves it very open for interpretation, not sure of any legal precedents regarding it.
That's the point though isn't it? Any given weekend in any bar and the majority of people are well under the influence of alcohol yet they continue to be served more which would appear to be in direct opposition to the law.
There's a key to the right of the letter "m" that you might find useful.
Also, "tool"? Grow up. The "tool" probably thinks it's really cool to... keep his job by adhering to store policy.