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I wonder how much margin Nvidia can cut from the GTX480 before it starts to lose money?
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More benches can be found at that link posted above by Broken Hope:
SOURCE: http://translate.google.com/transla...241537-41-verkaufe-radeon-6870#t17807&act=url (visit for more benches and comparision to 5800 and GTX 480)
SOURCE: http://translate.google.com/transla...241537-41-verkaufe-radeon-6870#t17807&act=url (visit for more benches and comparision to 5800 and GTX 480)
Just talked to my friend, and apparently his costs for the 6850 and 6870 are:
6850 @ £119.67
6870 @ £154.42
That of course is ex vat, and shop markup.
Sapphire cards.
So looking at ~£200 for the 6870 as predicted
Less than £20 profit on each card? Can't see that being the case.
Tessellation aside, it's not at all disappointing.
It's the same price as the 5850 was on release, is almost as fast as a 5870 and has only 1120 shader cores to the 5870s 1600. Very good efficiency improvements to an already efficient architecture buy the looks of it.
If a 6970 was to be 1600 shaders - I make that, potentially, 30% faster than a 6870. That puts it very close to the theoretical performance of a 580, if it happens.
It's the same price as the 5850 was on release, is almost as fast as a 5870 and has only 1120 shader cores to the 5870s 1600. Very good efficiency improvements to an already efficient architecture buy the looks of it.
If a 6970 was to be 1600 shaders - I make that, potentially, 30% faster than a 6870. That puts it very close to the theoretical performance of a 580, if it happens.
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Yea, but would you take a 6870 over a GTX470 with both at same price, knowing that GTX470 will deliver better tessellation performance and similiar performance in other areas, plus with more games favour Nvidia than ATI/AMD? Not trying to start a fight or anything here, just speaking from analytical point of view and for discussion sake.
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The 6870 is aimed at the GTX 460, so comparing it to a model which is much higher up the product 'food chain' is a tad pointless.
If you don't mind the additional heat, noise, power consumption and marginally higher price for better performance in a feature which isn't utilised much, then yes, you would get the GTX 470.
If you don't mind the additional heat, noise, power consumption and marginally higher price for better performance in a feature which isn't utilised much, then yes, you would get the GTX 470.
When that said " product " is priced the same or lower than a 6870 then it's far from pointless to compare.
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Can anyone post a bench of what the 460's can do in heaven at 1200x1080 8xAA 16xAF extreme tessellation.
Below is at 4xAA
Below is at 4xAA
Considering both seem to be priced at £200 it's a comparison I will need to make in the next couple of days. I'm comparing on price not what model I am told too.
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It's aimed at GTX460 1GB because AMD says so? Even when the price of GTX460 1GB is at £150ish, when the 6870 is most likely going to be at just under £200...which is actually GTX470 price?
No offence, I believe most of us comparing cards base on their price vs performance, not comparing in the way which the GPU manufacturers tell us so.
The 6870 HAS to be priced at less than £195. The closer to 1gb 460 prices the better.
If it isn't, which the prices posted so far seem to confirm, then what's the point in buying one with 5850's available for £192, or the 470 for £200.
If it isn't, which the prices posted so far seem to confirm, then what's the point in buying one with 5850's available for £192, or the 470 for £200.
In answer to that question.
As far as ATI is concerned the 5850 no longer exist, stock is minimal in the channel and so won't be around much longer. Also ATI consider the 6870 to be a faster card, more features and newer tech etc.
In regards to NVIDIA well thats upto ATI if they wish to compete with the GTX 470 but as it stands their 58xx had record sales, the 6870 is a slightly improved varient and in theory will sell just as well.
For me its a worthwhile upgrade I skipped a generation and am going from a 512mb 4870 to something that sits around the performance of a 5870 but for £100 less.
Why am I not going for a GTX470? I have an X48 Motherboard so sticking with ATI means at some point in the future I can add another and crossfire nothing personal against Nvidia just makes more sense with my setup at the moment to look at Amd/ati