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Nvidia Shenanigans again?

TBH any developer that ignores 75%+ of the dx11 market deserve a spanking. Same 'synonym for excrement' different day with nvidia.
 
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There are not even any 6*** cards on the market yet, by all accounts tessellation in Hawx 2 works fine on the 5*** cards, so ignoring how...
 
RavenXXX2 said:
There are not even any 6*** cards on the market yet, by all accounts tessellation in Hawx 2 works fine on the 5*** cards, so ignoring how...
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Not sure I've read anywhere that this is only with the 6*** cards (sorry if I have missed something) or that it works fine with 5*** cards, where did you get that info from?
 
I'm talking about the 5*** series, those that are actually released - hense the 75% of the dx11 market.

It doesn't make comercial sense to release a game in that state, I can see them releasing a different version, with the extreme tessellation taken out, similar to what happened with batman and AA.

It's not a game that I would ever buy but I don't like it the gamer is intentionally hobbled just because you happen to chose one manufacturer over the other. As I said in a previous post, the only thing NVidia has over AMD is tessellation, and they are pushing it as hard as they can - to the detriment of the gamer it seems.
 
Jibber55 said:
Not sure I've read anywhere that this is only with the 6*** cards (sorry if I have missed something) or that it works fine with 5*** cards, where did you get that info from?
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Exactly my understanding from what I've read so far.

Raven, please let me know where you got that info from as I would be interested in reading it!
 
Jibber55 said:
Not sure I've read anywhere that this is only with the 6*** cards (sorry if I have missed something) or that it works fine with 5*** cards, where did you get that info from?
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The link in the OP.

See here:

I'm sure you are fully aware that the timing of this benchmark is not coincidental and is an attempt by our competitor to negatively influence your reviews of the AMD Radeon™ HD 6800 series products. We suggest you do not use this benchmark at present as it has known issues with its implementation of DirectX® 11 tessellation and does not serve as a useful indicator of performance for the AMD Radeon™ HD 6800 series
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There is no intentional hobbling. The 6800 cards have "known issues with its implementation of DirectX® 11 tessellation". It's a very select set that's having problems with it, not the whole of the AMD range from what I understand.

All this "intentional hobbling" just seems to be a fabrication by a load of AMD fans to explain the issue and shift the blame to Ubi and Nvidia.
 
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I'm going by the AMD quote in the link provided by the OP, nowhere do they mention the 5*** cards which will be benched as well, considering the new 6*** cards do tessellation differently to the 5*** cards I think it's safe to assume it's only them effected.
 
orderoftheflame said:
All this "intentional hobbling" just seems to be a fabrication by a load of AMD fans to explain the issue and shift the blame to Ubi and Nvidia.
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So why is Ubi refusing to implement a fix, when AMD have already shown them that it works, and why is Nvidia so desperate to persuade reviewers to use this benchmark for the upcoming 6800 release?

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orderoftheflame said:
All this "intentional hobbling" just seems to be a fabrication by a load of AMD fans to explain the issue and shift the blame to Ubi and Nvidia.
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Considering what they done with the assassins creed patch its not exactly a wild assumption. Yet the NV fans clearly can't accept that....
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Just like the AMD fans can't accept it's AMD's problem and not Nvidia's or UBI's, are we to believe all AMD say?
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Why should people believe what nvidia and ubi have said when they were clearly in cahoots behind getting the assasins creed patch removed as it increased amd performance? All ubi could do was churn out excuses that reeked of so much BS the average bumpkin was getting high off the smell.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
I'm going by the AMD quote in the link provided by the OP, nowhere do they mention the 5*** cards which will be benched as well, considering the new 6*** cards do tessellation differently to the 5*** cards I think it's safe to assume it's only them effected.
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So it is pure speculation by both ootf and yourself that this will only affect 6*** cards then as this neither confirms nor denies it. I think we all know what assuming can do, espeically in the GFX market. Of course someone who has been around as long as yourself is already aware of that.

Either way, i'm sure as soon as you move over to AMD you will change you mind.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
lol coming from AMD fanboy no 1, that's rich.
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Actually thats a bit rich coming from you Raven, LMAO! :D

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=17434962

Raven, I thought you said you were going to stop trolling and that it was stupid to act in such a way!

Leopards and spots perhaps?


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I was wrong about the 480 it's a great card and I won't crap on any other card unless I have had first hand experience of it, I have no allegiance to any one brand, it is stupid to think and act that way, although I will admit I have been guilty of it in the past, but not so now.
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Ejizz said:
So why is Ubi refusing to implement a fix, when AMD have already shown them that it works, and why is Nvidia so desperate to persuade reviewers to use this benchmark for the upcoming 6800 release?

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What? Are you saying that it's ubisofts problem that AMD decided to change their ways of doing tessellation for their new cards?

I don't know if you've ever done any kind of graphics development, but I doubt this is some small fix they can just stick in at the last minute. Had AMD been helping from the beginning rather than just chucking small bits of help at them when it's to their benefit, I bet they could have avoided it all together.

This is AMD's problem, AMD should deal with it (In fact they actually are!).

I'm not sure how you can still think AMD are blameless after they've already said that they're going to fix it!

Nvidia clearly want people using the test because their cards handle it better! It's not some super conspiracy theory that you make it out to be.

Jibber55 said:
So it is pure speculation by both ootf and yourself that this will only affect 6*** cards then as this neither confirms nor denies it. I think we all know what assuming can do, espeically in the GFX market. Of course someone who has been around as long as yourself is already aware of that.

Either way, i'm sure as soon as you move over to AMD you will change you mind.
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What, who is it speculation? It's a quote from AMD stating that 6800 cards are effected that I posted.
If it effected all their cards. Why would they say it's just the 6800 cards? Do you not think that if it effected all their cards, they'd be making a bigger deal of it?




I'm done with this thread now, some of the posts are just getting past fanboyism and childish. If the best responses that people can come up with to valid discussion is "lol fanboy, Nvidia are corrupt and trying to pull the wool over your eyes!!!112", there's no point even trying to treat you like adults.

You can go on and on about corruption and bribery all you like, I'm out.
 
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