how will you guarantee that 100%.
Where do you stand with regards to the death penalty?
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how will you guarantee that 100%.
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You can never get 100% guilty.
The 'Birmingham 6' were in theory 100% guilty and would have been executed. Until decades later it turns out Mr Policeman was under such pressure for a result he stamped on each of the suspects heads continuously until they confessed.
'Beyond reasonable doubt' is the best we can do I'm afraid if you ever want any actual convictions!
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Oh let me think...hmmmm another person sees them committing murder or he owns up to is or caught on CCTV.
He\She tries to kill two people one survives and tells the cops..there are 1000s of ways.
Ahhhh I see you want to completely remove the right to appeal?
So are the murders of innocent people by killers who themselves deserve to die, if you commit murder you should face death yourself.
I SO wish it would return, we need to start culling all the murderers in our prisons, you'll soon see a decline in murders then!
One bullet will do.
Just say they have it on camera\CCTV what would the point be of a appeal?
It would be like watching a replay of a football match but the second time you see it you hope the guy does not score.
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Hmm. There's a serious risk of our government implementing it then.
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I read a Bill Bryson article in one of his books where he sumarises two main arguments against the Death Penalty.
1) The Financial cost of putting someone to Death is far far greater than putting them in jail because of the associated legal costs. Amnesty have some figures here. The idea that it is somehow cheaper and fairer on the taxpayer is ridiculous.
2) What if they're not guilty? There are plenty cases here of men who have been convicted of rape being acquitted years later. I seem to remember he mentions a case where a class project at a High school (or university) uncovered serious flaws in the case of a man who was due to be put to death in a week and ended up setting him free.
1) The Financial cost of putting someone to Death is far far greater than putting them in jail because of the associated legal costs. Amnesty have some figures here. The idea that it is somehow cheaper and fairer on the taxpayer is ridiculous.
2) What if they're not guilty? There are plenty cases here of men who have been convicted of rape being acquitted years later. I seem to remember he mentions a case where a class project at a High school (or university) uncovered serious flaws in the case of a man who was due to be put to death in a week and ended up setting him free.
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Because I have personally seen footage of a deathstar blowing up a planet called Alderon. This doesn't mean it actually happened.
EDIT -- i see your point. I THINK (feel free to correct me) appeals can only happen if new evidence comes to light. The thing is, especially with constant scientific improvements, it often does ..
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They can appeal from the other side.
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im torn. probably against it, but would like to see it as a last resort for extreme cases.
but then in general i think prison sentences should be longer and much harsher instead.
but then in general i think prison sentences should be longer and much harsher instead.
Just remember though that the UK courts consider many cases of murder to be manslaughter, whereas in the USA they don't.
That will certainly make the process very cost effective.
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I'm 100% for death penalty. If someone does something that is bang out of order. On purpous murder for example yes. Electric chair TBH.
Lets free some jails.
Lets free some jails.
It makes me cringe that the tax payer is paying for the upkeep of child murders, rapists etc who will spend the rest of thier life in jail in relative comfort ( I know, I have worked in a HS prison). Sure their freedom has been taken away but so has their responsibility to 'fend for themselves' - something every law abiding citizen has to do every day by means of supporting ones self. The death penalty is the ultimate punishment and while it may not work 100% it is certainly a bigger deterent than playing on a playstation, pool, working out at the gym, 3 square meals a day for the rest of your life at the expense of you and I.
With the advancement of forensic science, there would be very few innocent deaths. It's not like crimes are detected and solved by fingerprinting alone now. DNA profiling, the digital age etc have all contributed to criminology which allow a much more positive identification of a criminal and as such, a lesser chance of getting it wrong.
I will concede that nothing is 100% but look at the Hindley/Brady crimes, how much did it cost to keep them and was it ever in doubt? I'm not saying your petty thief should be hund drawn and quartered but their are some people out there that evil does now adequately describe and thus serve no purpose in remaining alive as they will never be reintegrated back into society. I guess we are playing God and the religeous implications are massive however, if removing this scum from society permanently and not funding thier lifestyle (which if you saw how some live you truly would be dumbfounded/disgusted!) by means of the 0.0001% (guestimate!) chance that they might get it wrong then like I said, I would be happy to take my chances.
Oh and I would certainly be happy putting child rapists to the sword - with no charge on my part.