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6970 or 6990 or something else

RavenXXX2 said:
lol all he does is slate Nvidia and big AMD up, and he provides nothing to back himself up, it's all his opinion. Like all the other " nameless faces" that spout stuff and can't backup their words. You don't see me going around slating AMD cards or Nivida cards even before they are out, I gave that up months a go.
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Raven, your as green as Bruce Banner, and judging by recent comments, your trying very hard indeed to suppress the inherent green monster within, I'm concerned how long you can keep it subdued though, especially with the pending upcoming releases...

RavenXXX2 said:
The whole point of the 580 is to top the 6970, IMO it will.
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Is that based on any constructive info that's been rumoured/confirmed, or simply fanboy optimism?

Let's hope your right, as I'v got a feeling we won't like you when your angry... ;)
 
I may stick with the 8600gs
It a smashing card, runs everything on low no problems, what more could a man ask for
 
RavenXXX2 said:
The whole point of the 580 is to top the 6970, IMO it will.
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In your IMO, fair enough, but.. the 69xx are not even released so how could you possibly say? Would be nightmare situation for it NOT to be faster for Nvidia, but don't forget it's all about perception of product at this point in time.

Ejizz, let's not start throwing green/red around :-) I've tried to stay away from that :-)

Back on topic (to remind myself)... would you bother waiting for 580 at this point? I certainly wouldn't. You can always sell on your 69xx series anyway to fund for the 580gtx (or whatever) if you really want to later on!
 
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Flanno said:
No it was a power management issue in the firmware related to the drivers. At least for non reference cards. None of my reference cards had problems at all, even in crossfire. Even so, I had driver problems like a lot of people on these forums that had nothing to do with GSODS. I went back to Nvidia as a result and to be honest I'm happier. I still run 5870's in another rig but they are reference cards and have no problems on 10.7.
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Are you saying that all (minus a few exceptions maybe) users on non reference cards suffered with GSOD's?
 
Scougar said:
Ejizz, let's not start throwing green/red around :-) I've tried to stay away from that :-)
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Just a little bit of truth in response to the personal attack, which he himself saw fit to withdraw with a subsequent edit.
Scougar said:
Back on topic (to remind myself)... would you bother waiting for 580 at this point? I certainly wouldn't. You can always sell on your 69xx series anyway to fund for the 580gtx (or whatever) if you really want to later on!
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Rumour is the 580 is going to be released first, at least on paper...
 
Anyway, in Raven's position I WOULD wait for the next card release, seem's like there will be little to upgrade to from the 480GTX. Not like it's not coping with games, especially at his res.

Paper release just before 69xx release? Typical marketting departments lol.
 
Personal attack lol if that's a personal attack what you call this
Ejizz said:
Raven, your as green as Bruce Banner, and judging by recent comments, your trying very hard indeed to suppress the inherent green monster within, I'm concerned how long you can keep it subdued though, especially with the pending upcoming releases...
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I removed it as there is enough flamebate on this forum, and the majority of it from new members ^^ trolling it up.
 
But sounds like the physical releases will be many months apart, it's not like it's weeks or a month apart. In that position, if you are considering the 69xx series, I wouldn't wait.

I certainly don't see the 69xx as a massive upgrade from the 480gtx, IF those slides showing AMD's card positioning are true. 6990 would be tempting as long as crossfire issues that are purported are sorted out.
 
Ejizz said:
Are you saying that all (minus a few exceptions maybe) users on non reference cards suffered with GSOD's?
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NO. Why would I say that. I'm talking about my own experience, and the experience I had with Sapphire whose technical support team have firmwares available for customers to flash in case of GSOD issues. It was explained to me that these issues were partly due to newer ATI drivers making changes which were not fully compatible with non-reference bios's. And these cards have voltages which are locked down very often. As far as I can see these bios updates altered voltages at different power settings, and clockspeeds to address these GSOD issues. I cannot say for sure whether these were just workarounds to fix something else inherently wrong in the cards.

What I can say is that all non reference cards I HAD bar 1 eventually had issues, some more extreme then others. All suffered GSOD's to some extent. Below is what happened 6 cards I had. All non reference. All the reference cards I had (4 in fact when I think about it) had zero issues. In the end I switched back to Nvidia. No GSOD's, or weird things happening so far.

Powercolour 5870 PC+ - intermittent GSOD issues, not reproduceable on demand though

Sapphire Vapor-X Toxic 5870 2GIG - VSOD, eventually card gave a corrupted image, refunded as could not get replacement

Sapphire Vapor-X Toxic 5870 2GIG - intermittent GSOD issue, returned by etailer with no fault found. Eventually cured with bios update from Sapphire. Still hangs on Bad Company 2.

Sapphire 5970 4GB - faulty DVI port due to poor Arctic Accelero fitment, causing card sometimes not to be detected in Xfire and sometimes no screen to display. Replaced under RMA

Sapphire 5970 4GB - had occasional GSOD and corruption over mini displayport. Seems to be ok now though.

Sapphire 5970 4GB Quadfire - quadfire occassionally getting disabled (about once every 10 boots), twice OS image needed to be restored over corrupted DX11 OS files.
 
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Looking forward to trying a pair of 6970s, maybe even 3 of em - should be good for Eyefinity with 2GB per card and if Xfire scaling is anything like the 6870 then I am in! Will wait for reviews though ...

I bought a 5970 & 2xVapor-X 5870s last year but I got rid of the 2 vapor-X 5870s and kept the 5970 as Eyefinity did not quite live up to my expectations with them all! This time round hopefully it will be fine ..
 
I'm not getting any of them, just keeping a hold of my 5870/9800 hybrid.
Name me one game that needs more juice than a 5870/480 can give?
 
ashmanuk67 said:
i asked i thought an easy question not one person answers it and yet you waste so much time and effort bashing each other :rolleyes:
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GJ02 replied, although not with exact dates as afaik nobody knows yet.

6950 / 6970 are expected towards the end of November.

6990 is expected some time in December.
 
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