NASA UFO Footage

That's same size, same mass and same speed. This is not the case in real life.

It shouldn't matter as my point is about instant changes in direction and speed, angles change at impact, they don't slowly take up the energy and curve away, its hit and bam direction/speed change.
 
It shouldn't matter as my point is its instant changes in direction and speed, angles change at impact, they don't slowly take up the energy and curve away, its hit and bam direction/speed change.

yes you are right but those changes can be minute, depending on mass and speed difference. get several in a row and you get what appears to be a gradual change, it is not. but that's what it looks like on film.
 
yes you are right but those changes can be minute, depending on mass and speed difference. get several in a row and you get what appears to be a gradual change, it is not. but that's what it looks like on film.

This.

Acidhell is right. Radiation, you are wrong.
 
This.

Acidhell is right. Radiation, you are wrong.

My point is not wrong, i never said something can't turn from multiple collisions its just highly unlikely you would get so many coming from the right direction to cause it to keep changing direction, even then it woulnd't be a perfect curve but a series of angle changes, thats not what we see, we see something that moves as if under some force.
 
My point is not wrong, i never said something can't turn from multiple collisions its just highly unlikely you would get so many coming from the right direction to cause it to keep changing direction, even then it woulnd't be a perfect curve but a series of angle changes, thats not what we see, we see something that moves as if under some force.

Yes, but your point is largely irrelevant to what Acid is talking about.

If you are far enough away from an object and it is constantly getting hit by very small forces which subsequently change its direction very slightly, it will appear to move in a curve.
 
But if you rae far enough away from it and it is constantly getting hit by very small forces which subsequently change its direction very slightly, it will appear to move in a curve.

Not a perfect curve and the chances of them all hitting just right to make it keep turning are so unlikely that its just not a good explanation, which is what i've argued all along.
 
And the non-believers come up. Good God, honestly. You must be completely wooden to think we're alone in the universe and that we're the fastest-evolved species.

i dont think so. if you put it into the context of 'currently' i think there are some huge leaps of faith that need to be taken to believe that there IS currently species more evolved than us out there.

there may have been other species, they yet still may be species elsewhere. but currently? im sceptical.

given that we have no evidence that indicates life on another planet, despite 40 years of searching, i think the odds are that there isnt as opposed to that there definitely is.
 
My point is not wrong, i never said something can't turn from multiple collisions its just highly unlikely you would get so many coming from the right direction to cause it to keep changing direction, even then it woulnd't be a perfect curve but a series of angle changes, thats not what we see, we see something that moves as if under some force.

it's not a constant curve, a lot on your video get instantly tighter or straighter. You also have to allow for frame rate and that it is unlikely to capture a jolt from a stream. Just like a flick book, is very distinct changes in place, but looks like a smooth transition.

You need much more info to rule it out, until then it is the most likely explanation.

You say it's unlikely, you are dismissing it's perfectly possible to get streams of particles in space. Most likely from the shuttle itself. There's also streams of light and radiation from the sun, although I doubt that would have enough mass to push dust sized particles.
 
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it's not a small curve, a lot on your video get instantly tighter or straighter.

You need much more info to rule it out, until then it is the most likely explanation.

You say it's unlikely, you are dismissing it's perfectly possible to get streams of particles in space. Most likely from the shuttle itself. There's also streams of light and radiation from the sun, although I doubt that would have enough mass to push dust sized particles.

Just how many perfect chance collisions are you imagining are going on here?

You do realize how many and how unlikely even on a small scale it would take to get it all moving in thr right direction and to appear almost perfect?

A force like mavity or magnetism acting on it could give a perfect curve but then we're talking about scales where it wouldn't work and why it would effect random individuals and not others near by, jets and streams would also cause others to be affected in the area, again this isn't what we see.
 
You do realize how many and how unlikely even on a small scale it would take .

it would not be that many, what it filmed in 24fps?
how many particles are released from say a manoeuvring thruster.

How many of the hundreds of particles you see actually move in such a way, very few.

Would only affect others in the area if they are in the streams path.

and your still ignoring the affects cause by small objects to close to the lens.
 
Not had chance to watch it yet, but probably a little more detailed than a 5 min vid posted in the OP. 16 parts.


Another interesting theory from memory is the Black Knight satellite, again the images are from NASA, skip to 2:30 for the photos;


And one I've posted before, The Battle of LA;

 
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I'm sure most photographers would agree that most of those 'objects' look funny because they aren't in focus. Especially that last one at the tether. Theres a second (9:35) when adjusting focus in that shot that all the objects look much better focused and look exactly like dust, when out of focus they look like a disk.
 
i hear theres an alien base on the dark side of the moon and thats why we have never revisited because they made threats against the earth :D

lol reading the logs from some of the moon missions makes that one pretty damn believable in all fairness !


we keep them away by selling our ozone layer !
 
lol careful saying that. dmpoole will put you down because apparently the world would accept it as normal with no problems at all

Why would I 'PUT HIM DOWN'?
If the Governments of the world announced that they have proof that Aliens do exist, I 100% believe there won't be panic in the streets like some think on here.
Are there any religions that preach that God didn't make life anywhere else in the Universe?
Discovering Aliens doesn't mean there is no God, in fact every religion will use it to their advantage.
What if Aliens say there is no God? - all the believers will treat them like any other atheist.
However if the Governments say they have discovered aliens and they are coming to get us then there would be mass panic.

Just to throw this out to the religious people on here -
If there was 100% proof that Aliens existed would you go into a mass panic?
What about you Muslims - would Allah suddenly not exist?
 
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