Are there any crimes that deserve death?
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No. Since I don't agree with the death penalty I can't possibly agree that there are crimes that merit it.
Putting books face down, open.
It's the only way to teach people not to damage the spines.
More seriously, unless there is an absolutely infallible way to show someone committed the crime with no chance of it being wrong, and the crime was serious enough with no chance of reform, then no.
Personally I think that prison is probably a much better deterrent than the death penalty for many people - remember in the US where the death penalty is in force it doesn't stop people killing each other, indeed in some areas/cases the people committing the murders are much more likely to be killed by a "competitor" than caught by the state, so it's no real deterrent for them.
I fundamentally disagree with the concept of capital punishment. If there was one person I would have been happy to see hang to death, it would have been Saddam Hussein. But I could not accept that he should be put to death, and I cannot foresee anybody being more deserving of the worst possible sentence for a long time.
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Yes, for things like murder and kiddy fiddlers.
My reasoning: It has nothing to do with being a deterrent. It is to do with a dead kiddy fiddler is the only time kiddy fiddler won't fiddle kids again.
My reasoning: It has nothing to do with being a deterrent. It is to do with a dead kiddy fiddler is the only time kiddy fiddler won't fiddle kids again.
was just going to say the same thing
its not about being a deterrent
its about not being able to do it again to someone else
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Indeed.
If I had a child who had been snatched and cut up or whatever, the only way I would not live to get revenge is if the person who did it is dead.
This, pretty much. While I would no doubt wish someone dead if they harmed my wife or daughter I am not really sure that is a good benchmark for how a legal system should be run.
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What's wrong with Saddam Hussein?
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Well the former is pretty much a given precursor to the second or if you don't have the state executing people then you either don't execute them (and therefore does the crime really merit death if you can't trust it to be done by the justice system) or you have vigilantes/something similar to execute the criminals and if so then why is a vigilante better for the purpose?
And a lifetimes incarceration won't achieve the same result? I can understand the feelings of anger that would arise from being the victim of a crime or the want for retribution but that's why we don't and shouldn't allow victims to dictate sentencing.
