Rear wheel drive and snow

[TW]Fox · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:25

BigToe said:
Winter tyres are awesome. I was expecting massive delays into and out of town, but to my surprise I did the journey in the same time I would with good weather because everyone was hogging the clean lanes leaving me to cruise along the snow-covered ones at my leisure. Most of the time I was doing the speed limit or a little over

This is one of the risks with winter tyres - it gives inexperienced people false confidence. Driving above the speed limit on a snow covered carriageway is rather daft regardless of your super invincible tyre choice.

Sirrel Squirrel · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:34

Watched an S Class go sideways trying to pull out of an icy side road onto the main road with a fairly steep incline, he wasn't going anywhere

Dup · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:38

RWD, 5 mile commute. No problem.

Oh, wait. Lacks an engine

mrk · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:39

Looks like ditchfinders!

Will Gill · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:39

Dup said:
Oh, wait. Lacks an engine :([/QUOTE]

and warmth, comfort, safety & common sense :p

Conanius · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:42

Dup said:
RWD, 5 mile commute. No problem.

Oh, wait. Lacks an engine

Braver man than me ! No chance of me doing the 12 miles to Central London on my bike !

L0rdMike · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:46

Simon said:
Rubbish- are you driving on snow?

Got stuck in the carpark earlier for a few mins.

BigglesPiP · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:48

Fair coating at work: http://twitpic.com/3c64of/full

Fido McNasty · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:50

Dup said:
Oh, wait. Lacks an engine

Better get on that.

Dup · 2 Dec 2010 at 12:54

I've grown up and live in east Lancs, safety and common sense don't apply

I was pretty warm actually, spent enough on gear. Only complaint was my finger tips but with poor circulation in that area I'm not going to grumble although I spent most of the journey wiggling them haha.

I was riding in snow most of the way as I'd be riding in the middle of the road otherwise and it wasn't bad. Suns been out here most of the day though so shouldn't be bad on the way home. It's the after dark freeze that worries me the most. Snow is fine really. I'll be halfway home by the time everyone here gets their car up the ramp out of work

Gaijin · 2 Dec 2010 at 13:02

Enjoy the snow boys

shadow_boxer · 2 Dec 2010 at 13:24

logix42p said:
when i had my old 540i a few years back when it snowed i was trying to get up a hill and an old 1.0 micra overtook me and flew past. He looked so smug, and had prob been waiting for that day since they had owned the car.

OMG. this exact thing just happened to me this morning. Most gentle of inclines and a silver micra (WITH THE P PLATES ON) went round me!!! ARGH :mad:

BigToe · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:16

[TW]Fox;17915251 said:
This is one of the risks with winter tyres - it gives inexperienced people false confidence.

Quite possibly.

[TW]Fox;17915251 said:
Driving above the speed limit on a snow covered carriageway is rather daft regardless of your super invincible tyre choice.

I'd say it depends completely on the circumstances.

[TW]Fox · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:22

What circumstances make it appropriate to exceed the posted speed limit on a snow covered lane?

PMKeates · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:24

[TW]Fox;17916085 said:
What circumstances make it appropriate to exceed the posted speed limit on a snow covered lane?

Emergency involving immediate certain threat to life i.e. nuclear warhead detonation, you are in a Land Rover Discovery and the ambulance carrying the Queen has crashed and the medical personnel have died and you need to take the Queen to hospital etc.

I can think of many circumstances!

PiKe · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:26

PMKeates said:
Emergency involving immediate certain threat to life i.e. nuclear warhead detonation, you are in a Land Rover Discovery and the ambulance carrying the Queen has crashed and the medical personnel have died and you need to take the Queen to hospital etc.

I somehow don't think BigToe was doing either of those things.

BigToe · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:32

[TW]Fox;17916085 said:
What circumstances make it appropriate to exceed the posted speed limit on a snow covered lane?

What circumstances make it appropriate to exceed any speed limit at any time?

PiKe said:
I somehow don't think BigToe was doing either of those things.

I was

Gibbo · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:39

Khaaan! said:
Turn it off, find carpark, do donuts!

Aye in the EVO you set to gravel mode and completely disable ASC.

Great fun.

Gibbo · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:42

[TW]Fox;17916085 said:
What circumstances make it appropriate to exceed the posted speed limit on a snow covered lane?

Winter tyres give grip for sure.

But driving at 70mph on a snow covered lane or faster is and I'd agree with Fox unwise.

Yes you will be OK, but what happens if you need to brake? Even with winter tyres your stopping distances will be double or more on snow, especially if you stand on the brakes at 70mph, your ABS will just go mental.

If its a completely empty motorway, no other cars, no one to pull in front, no animals to run in front of you then yes a winter tyre will let you do 70mph on snow for sure, but you won't stop very quick.

mrk · 2 Dec 2010 at 14:43

Well I had some fun at a local carpark on the way home

An old red Corsa came in too and attempted to do the same but they buggered off moments later. Then an E46 touring came and did one round and went away ^_^

Shame about icy patches though, just the snowed over ground is awesome but the icy patches are bumpy and throw the balance off an otherwise suitable doughnut!