DM: Woman spends £3k of benefit money on Xmas

Also, "I've have to earn £30k to get what i do on benefits"

Well, we have to work up to that level, to get that money in the first place, so why are people any different?

I think that also makes cases like this more infuriating, really. She's obviously not completely feckless, isn't that badly spoken, and her family seems (and is commented on as being) slightly above what one expects from the doley crowd in terms of presentation and behaviour.

She's smart enough, and she's recognised that slogging for years to reach that level of income just isn't worth it when everyone else will pay. Power to her, but it makes it no less disgusting.
 
stop getting pregnant you irresponsible woman!

this story is the tip of the iceberg though and tbh i have more time for people who spend their benefits on their kids than spend it on drugs!
 
It's the governments fault for paying her all that money, anyone in the same situation will take the benefits if it out pays going out to work.

MW
 
Agree with what's been said really, the government should not have allowed the benefits system to pay people to stay at home and have kids as a career.
 
As above.

The sooner the gov put into force all their rumoured changes to the social security system the better........if it doesn't get too watered down? :o
 
Joke of a system, no wonder the UK is seen as such a good place for immigrants.

What happend to living within their means and teaching the kids the value of things, work hard then you get the luxuries, sit at home all day get nothing, I remember by day going working down in Kent when the storm hit in the 80s and he worked for weeks down their and bought me and my sister about 20 presents each and got us an Amstrad CPC 484 which was mega money back then.
 
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short of sterilisation what should the government do though, granted she's taking the **** a bit with the xmas stuff, but should a single mum be able to live comfortably with her children? I would imagine with that many children she's not actually getting a great deal more than that in benefits, she is probably getting something from the dad to avoid CSA etc which is tipping it over the edge a bit.
 
Ah I see, thanks :) . It's quite wrong that "we" should be funding a loan imo.

Hmmm.

We are and we aren't.

We are funding people to do all sorts of stuff with benefits no doubt, from illegitimate claims to legitmate claims that go on things like drugs and alcohol etc. The rest of the people will genuinely use it as intended.

You either do, or do not, accept that subsistance needs to be paid for those out of unemployment from the state.

If you do and payment is made, your commitment as a society or state is over. You are then down to the claiments personal priorities, which isn't a case for direct involvement [citation - level/can of worms]

What they in effect do with the money is trivial, society has met the basic requirements.

Should they want to secure a loan against future payments, and do so legally, to help themself in whatever situation is of no real concern to myself.

If you don't think the state should provide aid, then well I can see where this thinking comes from.

I don't necessarily think that state aid should be only money, but the practicalities of changing it to something like a voucher system or soup kitchen scheme also has its own benefits and pitfalls.

Not least upon cost.

This is all a lot of scope and focus on a very small minority in this country though, it's a shame that the tax dodgers who arguably cost the UK far more are let off in such an easy manner.

Although, I'll stop before my socialist green shoots start to sprout up in yet another thread..
 
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And what do we do with the kids that we're taking away from a potentially caring family?

I think he is refering to not having children, ie don't bring them into existance if you are unable to afford them rather than talking about kids that already exist.

Personally I agree, I don't have anything on credit, my only outstanding loan is my mortgage and I live by the rule of if I can't afford to buy it outright then I don't buy it and I believe others should do the same possibly with the exception of a car.

I think it's arrogant that people should continue having children on the assumption that someone else will pick up the bill. If you can't support youself then why would you purposely bring someone else into the world?

Apologies if that is a little black and white for some people but I work my arse off to pay my way and it frustrates me when I see other people getting handouts through abuse of the system.
 
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