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5850 Or 6850

easyrider said:
Where are the benchmarks showing 20%?

Also look at the CF benchies the 6850 uses less power and yet its faster in CF than a 5850's

So how do you do your math? :p
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My own results across many games...

Also we're not talking about crossfire here. The op only mentioned single cards.
 
VinceB1 said:
As a 5850 owner I can see both points of view, easyrider has a point but for £125 you cannot go wrong with 5850, or a 68xx for that matter. Most 5850's (including mine) will easily do 1000core and have a full feature set just like the 68 series. Sure the temptation is there to go for a 68 series because they are newer and supported for longer but then there is that mediocre trade off in performance.

Answer.... pull paper from a hat, both offer good value and near on the same feature set and performance.
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I love a good debate :D, being a 5850 owner myself im gonna be biased and say 5850 all the way although i must admit i have looked at the 68 series and rubbed my hands together.

Vince how much voltage would be needed to get 1ghz core on a 5850? Do the 68 series have voltage control?

5850's are by far one of the best OC'ers on the market imo and the msi 5850 on OCUK with a non reference cooler means you could give this bad boy a battering with high end clocks with super cooling
 
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The 5850 is barely faster here
 
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liamcrane said:
Vince how much voltage would be needed to get 1ghz core on a 5850? Do the 68 series have voltage control?
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My Sapphire 6850 does 1000 1150 at 1.18v, the same default vcore as a 6870 uses for 900. That's using their official Trixx utility with voltage control.

Default voltage gets it to about 960 (1.145v). Haven't tried higher than 1000, but I don't think anyone is reaching 1100 even at the max 1.3v used in Trixx.

There seems to be a wide variation on the net however, some have better core, others mem and lucky SOB's both, so who knows what each person might get. 1000 on the core and 1150 on the mem seems very achievable for most however.

Lost planet 2 DX11 benchmark "Test B" at 1080p 8xaa max settings goes from 25FPS to 31FPS! That's an increase of 25% on a GPU limited benchmark for a 25% increase in clock speed! Not bad.
 
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easyrider said:
The 5850 is barely faster here
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But it is faster, so whats the point in getting the 6850 when its £10 more expensive? Aside from it uses only 1x6 pin pci-e connecter, slightly less power consumption (20W at load was it?), & better crossfire scaling. If none of those concern you I can only see how the 5850 is the better card?
 
RavenXXX2 said:
1 watt in it when gaming, furmark is slightly higher. The 5850 we're suggesting is a fairly standard size so will fit in 99% of cases. So the 6850 uses one PCI-E power cable, that's a bonus only if you have a crap PSU.
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Most PSUs have only a single PCI-E power connector so you are talking nonsense. A Corsair CX400W or a VX450W only have a single PCI-E power connector and these are Seasonic units.

In fact the vast majority of PSUs upto 500W only have a single PCI-E power connector.

For an SFF gaming PC the HD6850 1GB is a great card.

The HD6850 1GB consumes upto 30W less at load than an HD5850 1GB.

No hotlinking!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd6870-hd6850_9.html#sect0
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Most PSUs have only a single PCI-E power connector so you are talking nonsense. A Corsair CX400W or a VX450W only have a single PCI-E power connector and these are Seasonic units.

In fact the vast majority of PSUs upto 500W only have a single PCI-E power connector.
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Indeed. Unless things use loads ammounts of power they are crap according to Ravern:confused::p
 
Face facts you fail with your attempts to put people off the £125 5850 in favor of the 6850, the 5850 is the better card of this there is no doubt.
 
I have a 6850 and even with the great performance overclocked, I'd get a 5850 at the right price which that MSI one on offer certainly is!

The only thing that I'd miss is the MLAA which may prove very useful down the line, if they don't offer it to the 5 series officially. Slightly better tesselation is nice too. Also the filtering fix where you can't see banding anymore is a good thing to sort out. But all minor things. Power usage difference isn't that much - what is it 20W difference?

Both are great cards for current games, but I would take a 5850 at the moment. Mature drivers and card bios count for a lot, as I'm finding out with my 6850 (some issues with idle temps and powerplay).
 
borgia said:
But it is faster, so whats the point in getting the 6850 when its £10 more expensive? Aside from it uses only 1x6 pin pci-e connecter, slightly less power consumption (20W at load was it?), & better crossfire scaling. If none of those concern you I can only see how the 5850 is the better card?
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So apart from:

Only 1x6 pin pci-e connecter,
Significantly less power consumption
Far Superior crossfire scaling
DP 1.2
6 monitors off one card
Superior Tessellation

What have the Romans ever done for us?:D

Fact is these features out-way the tiny gains over the 5850
 
spirits247 said:
I have a 6850 and even with the great performance overclocked, I'd get a 5850 at the right price which that MSI one on offer certainly is!

The only thing that I'd miss is the MLAA which may prove very useful down the line, if they don't offer it to the 5 series officially. Slightly better tesselation is nice too. Also the filtering fix where you can't see banding anymore is a good thing to sort out. But all minor things. Power usage difference isn't that much - what is it 20W difference?

Both are great cards for current games, but I would take a 5850 at the moment. Mature drivers and card bios count for a lot, as I'm finding out with my 6850 (some issues with idle temps and powerplay).
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Even a 6850 owner agrees the 5850 is the card to own.
 
lol who's getting owned in this thread because their argument does not hold up at all. You have been told the facts, you should just drop it, it's bordering on trolling.
 
easyrider said:
So apart from:

Only 1x6 pin pci-e connecter,
Significantly less power consumption
Superior Tessellation
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Those are the same pro's I listed. For someone who is looking for the best value card with the most power, no intentions of crossfire and is only ever going to run one monitor, the other postives you've listed don't apply.

Even if you only have 1x6pin pci-e connector, pretty much all cards come with the peripheral to pci-e adaptor don't they? So that shouldn't even be a problem?

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I do understand where you are coming from easyrider. If the 6850 was around £115 and the 5850 was around £145 I think I would go with the 6850. Fact is, the 5850 is a stonking price for a lot of card at the moment.
 
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