Christian assemblies in schools could face axe over claims they infringe children's human rights

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danza said:
I really don't see the problem here. Look at it from this perspective. My wife teaches at a heavily muliti-cultured, multi-faith primary/junior school in the 'ghetto' (good school to work at despite this), and they include everything they should to keep people of various religions happy. They celebrate Diwali, Eid etc etc, and various other Hindu and Muslim festivals/traditions, so why should Christian assemblies be snuffed out when all the parents have to do is withdraw the kids? It's not rocket science.
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Why spend time trying to appease every religion?
 
sparklebox said:
I also am also in education, and I personally agree they should remove the christian aspect from assemblies as children don't know what they are doing and shouldn't be forced to even listen to something they aren't developed enough to understand.
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Good argument to remove children from school and not let them learn anything.

Religion should be an essential part of teaching especially the different view points. if it was and taught well, perhaps we would have more tolerance, especially from the extreme atheists side, which is a far higher following that the equivalent religious side and tehy get laughed down anyway. .
 
More daily mail idiocy. Children are not indoctrinated by christian assembly, its a complete nonsense invented by atheist pressure groups who wish to impose their own ideology instead.

It amazes me that those who say it indoctrinated them as kids don't actually believe.

My son attends a catholic school, he isn't indoctrinated, he just thinks its boring and that his RE teacher is weird.

People should find something more productive to campaign about, like literacy levels in schools (which are better in faith schools btw).
 
AcidHell2 said:
Good argument to remove children from school and not let them learn anything.

Religion should be an essential part of teaching especially the different view points. if it was and taught well, perhaps we would have more tolerance, especially from the extreme atheists side, which is a far higher following that the equivalent religious side and tehy get laughed down anyway. .
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Or if you take no interest in religion you judge a person for who they are and not what they believe in.

It is wrong to judge someone based on their skin colour, why should we "equip" people to make a judgement based on religion?
 
OldCoals said:
And how many parents do not remove their child through fear of the child being single out?
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Yes, it's well known that not being from a religious family will make you a target for bullying in the average British comprehensive school.

They probably don't remove their child because as the assembly is "broadly of a Christian nature" it almost certainly won't do any harm and might actually do some good for their kid. The thing you have to remember is that we aren't talking about Christian services in assemblies, but say reading out the parable of the Good Samaritan. No-one whether Hindu, Muslim, Jew or even Atheist could logically object to that - except for the idiots at the NSS of course. I wonder what they would like to see it replaced with?
 
Why can't they have a religious studies lesson each week which teaches them about various faiths, instead of just being forced to pray and sing Christian songs everyday regardless of if they want to or not? Simple really. :/
 
Some people are talking about what happened when they were at school - "if we didn't sing the words right we had to face the wall", "I had to recite the Our Father in front of everyone" - these are non-arguments, because this doesn't happen any more! There's lots of things that went on in schools in the past that were wrong, such as caning - but these are in the past and aren't relevant to the argument in the article!
 
AcidHell2 said:
Religion should be an essential part of teaching especially the different view points. if it was and taught well, perhaps we would have more tolerance, especially from the extreme atheists side, which is a far higher following that the equivalent religious side and tehy get laughed down anyway. .
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I 100% agree, but teaching one side of religion as fact is bad. I can't speak for other peoples religious eductation but during infant and primary school I was taught Christianity as fact (with no reference to other religions as far as I can remember) and during secondary school we had a really good teacher who went through all the difference religions and spent time going over their beliefs and I was then able to match what I thought with the corresponding religion/group (agnostic).
 
OldCoals said:
Or if you take no interest in religion you judge a person for who they are and not what they believe in.

It is wrong to judge someone based on their skin colour, why should we "equip" people to make a judgement based on religion?
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What are you talking about. You aren't equiping people to take the pee.
 
OldCoals said:
It is wrong to judge someone based on their skin colour, why should we "equip" people to make a judgement based on religion?
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We should 'equip' people with whatever we can. Access to knowledge should not be restricted for fear of arming the cretin - obviously, this is not the case in all situations, but information about the structure, function and modus of any religion should not be kept in the dark. It's ignorance that breeds intolerance, not knowledge.
 
OldCoals said:
Or if you take no interest in religion you judge a person for who they are and not what they believe in.

It is wrong to judge someone based on their skin colour, why should we "equip" people to make a judgement based on religion?
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Judgments don't have to be based on set religions, but more of the collective morals that religions teach (honour your father and mother, treat people as you'd like to be treated) etc. It provides kids with a set of standards in life, even if they don't believe in religion. Respecting your parents isn't going to be taught in a science lesson, is it?
 
Trifid said:
I 100% agree, but teaching one side of religion as fact is bad. I can't speak for other peoples religious eductation but during infant and primary school I was taught Christianity as fact (with no reference to other religions as far as I can remember) and during secondary school we had a really good teacher who went through all the difference religions and spent time going over their beliefs and I was then able to match what I thought with the corresponding religion/group (agnostic).
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Even back in my day it wad not tsught as fact. We did humns kand stuff it was just domething wefid, it wasn't taught as fact, but i agree if that is the case then that is very bad, philosophy of science needs to be add to the circulum asap.
 
Acidhell2 I completely agree with your comment about religion needing to be taught. I obviously didn't make me point well - I whole heartedly agree that children should be taught about different religions, and explore different faiths so they can make their minds up what (if anything) they want to be. But I think they should have the option rather than it just being christianity - unless of course it's specifically a religious school x
 
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