Christian assemblies in schools could face axe over claims they infringe children's human rights

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The burden of proof is always on those that suggested it in the first place...

They prove it with faith based evidence, just because you don't accept that evidence is immaterial.

If someone wishes to use a different set of evidentiary procedures then the burden becomes theirs.
 
The burden of proof is always on those that suggested it in the first place...

No it's not in a science concept.

science just doesn't care unless there is evidence, Science does not state that if there is no evidence it is wrong. It simply states it is not interested unless there is evidence.

A Deity exists outside of the laws of science and therefore can never be used to describe it and therefore find evidence.
 
So ... so far I have 3 people asking me to use science to disprove God, yet none of them have been able to give me a definition of God ... and in fact, I have been told to not use the Bible (which some believe to be the word of God)

Maybe I should go read the Qur'an and disprove parts of that, as afaik that is seen as words of Allah still?

EDIT: Castiel ... a concept, really? How does "a concept" create the universe?

It's a concept in the sense that religious people believe that something (usually with a personality) created the universe and is responsible for everything in it. Any other aspect of it is irrelevant. People can then colour in the picture however they want from there.

So I was define god for you as just that - something (usually with a personality) created the universe and is responsible for everything in it.

But even that is flimsy, because I postulate that a god, if one exists, might not have to be a concious being at all. There is nothing scientific to explain the existance of everything or why anything does exist. That is why science cannot prove a god does not exist.

Yet.
 
So ... so far I have 3 people asking me to use science to disprove God, yet none of them have been able to give me a definition of God ... and in fact, I have been told to not use the Bible (which some believe to be the word of God)

Maybe I should go read the Qur'an and disprove parts of that, as afaik that is seen as words of Allah still?

EDIT: Castiel ... a concept, really? How does "a concept" create the universe?

How does science work with the concepts of energy, force, or any number of others.
 
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We used to do this every morning in junior and infant school and I don't recall anyone I know having become religious zealots, it was just a bit fun singing together really and we used to change the lyrics to the songs. "He's got the whole world in his pants" :D
 
science is the only accepted medium of proof

to you, many others and of cause for the scientific principle. Luckily enough science doesn't state it has all the answer or that it can solve everything. Again you need to learn what science is, may I suggest with reading up on philosophy of science and the actual principles.
 
at my secondary school (didn't go to primary school in this country) we always had a mix of of morning assemblies. usually one a week would be christian in origin but the others we various faiths, or no faith at all.

Seems reasonable to me. Children should be presented with all the options if possible, so they can make their own mind up.

Just because someone told me about god didn't stop me thinking (believing, if you will) that it was all non-sense and following a more humanist outlook on life. I want all kids to have the same opportunity as me.
 
The pedant in me is screaming to tell you that there is no proof in any biology, physics and chemistry.

The only science that gives any 'proof' is maths.

No, because you can have proof based on experiments and control sets etc, proof does not have to be a mathematical equation (though with time we will be able to create a mathematical equation for everything)
 
No, because you can have proof based on experiments and control sets etc, proof does not have to be a mathematical equation (though with time we will be able to create a mathematical equation for everything)

But that isn't proof, other than predictions which is pure mathematics.

science can never prove the actual mechanism that happens. It merely states all it is interested in, is the simplistic model to accurately predict the results. the actual real life method could be totally different.
 
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