Christian assemblies in schools could face axe over claims they infringe children's human rights

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Tell me about it Stretch, but telling him that faith based evidence is not valid evidence seems to fall on death ears.
 
Tell me about it Stretch, but telling him that faith based evidence is not valid evidence seems to fall on death ears.

Not valid to you. Nor me for that matter, however it doesn't mean it's not valid to them.

Scientific evidence is not the only kind of evidence.
 
Good argument to remove children from school and not let them learn anything.

Religion should be an essential part of teaching especially the different view points. if it was and taught well, perhaps we would have more tolerance, especially from the extreme atheists side, which is a far higher following that the equivalent religious side and tehy get laughed down anyway. .

The gist of what people are saying is it's something that should be left to the individual rather than arbitrarily imposed from infancy as they wont understand it anyway.

If children in secondary school chose religion as a topic to study that's their choice and then they would be old enough to make of it what they will, but to thrust it onto kids from such an early age is indoctrination at best, cruelty at worst.
 
Not valid to you. Nor me for that matter, however it doesn't mean it's not valid to them.

Scientific evidence is not the only kind of evidence.

Evidence not based upon a scientific method is NOT valid


I love my family, but I cannot scientificly prove it - do you doubt that I love my family?
You could devise a test for it, something along the lines of would you let them be killed, etc

In fact, there probably are psychology based tests for similar things, I'm not a psychologist though ... go find one and ask
 
Evidence not based upon a scientific method is NOT valid



You could devise a test for it, something along the lines of would you let them be killed, etc

In fact, there probably are psychology based tests for similar things, I'm not a psychologist though ... go find one and ask


I'm sorry but I don't really think love is something you can scientifically test for. You may think that if you stamp a "scientific" experiment on it then suddenly you can science all over it, but there are just some things you cannot test for.

Edit: And it would be so complex to test for because of the magnitude and number of variables and errors associated with each tested variable. Because I'm pretty sure it's a large thing to be tested. And the damn ethics over testing for "love". Did you possibly think of that? There are some things science just shouldn't cross over.



And Psychology is the most bogus science ever I don't even want to talk about it.
 
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You could devise a test for it, something along the lines of would you let them be killed, etc

In fact, there probably are psychology based tests for similar things, I'm not a psychologist though ... go find one and ask

Sorry but that's a bit of a cop out answer and it almost looks as if you realised how silly that sounded as you were typing it. There is simply no way to test for the love of another.

The point is that my evidence is only how I feel, there's no absolute way of defining that. People use how the feel about a god as the evidence to back it up. You are perfectly free to not put much weight on that evidence, but you can't say it doesn't exist.
 
Besides, you can possibly look at feeling using brain scans or whatever

As I said, I do not have enough knowledge of the subject, but there is possibly a way to test for it
 
Besides, you can possibly look at feeling using brain scans or whatever

As I said, I do not have enough knowledge of the subject, but there is possibly a way to test for it

Ok, I'm going to move away from whether it is or isn't possible because we clearly aren't going to agree on that.

More importantly, would you really have to see that 'scientific evidence' to even begin believing me that I loved my family?
 
CD32 (first post in this thread)

"Couldn't understand why "christian" assemblies are proposed for getting axed due to human rights as opposed to "religious" assemblies in general. Ah yes I do."

BigglesPip

"Are you suggesting Christians don't explode?"

Castiel

"No, he's just about to start on about Muslims, immigration and ethnic minorities trying to destroy white peoples way of life....blah, blah, blah."

I'm so sorry Nitefly truly I am...I just don't like the lies of Castiel thinking he can get away with murder & lies ;)

Mmm, so I'm a murderer as well now.

Of course you are ignoring the past posting history of yourself in my obviously tongue in cheek retort to BigglePip, one which is borne out by your refusal to respond to the post I made giving you the benefit of the doubt, or to the original meaning of "ah yes I do" in your original one.

If you did not have the intention I ascribed to you based on your posting history, then a simple justification would have sufficed, rather than some inane attempt at character assassination.
 
Ok, I'm going to move away from whether it is or isn't possible because we clearly aren't going to agree on that.

More importantly, would you really have to see that 'scientific evidence' to even begin believing me that I loved my family?

Realistically, I can judge whether you love them or not based upon your actions and words ...

Why? Do you need my approval that you really do love your family?
 
As to the love thing, love is just a release of a certain chemical in the brain when seeing somebody (I think I saw it in 'The science of attraction' which can be seen on youtube) and it can be tested for.

They tested a man who had been married for a very long time, and the test concluded that he still loved his wife by the release of these chemicals when asked to think about his wife.



I remember in school we would get told off for not reciting the lords prayer, and this went on until secondary school. (where my form tutor was a RE teacher, and a very close minded one at that...could never answer my questions about religions) It was ludicrous, the constant drilling of stories from the bible every morning followed by a few minutes of meaningless prayer...it sickens me to this day to think about what they are forcing upon children every morning. The stories about morals always had to make you remember that you are inferior to God and Jesus and it never really was because of you, but because they wanted it to happen...hell we were even forced to attend these gatherings once a week, and was justified by the tutors as being a time when all the students are together and able to get messages across.

Waiter, but I believe theres a holy spirit in my message...

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The video is 'The science of sex appeal' which aired on the discovery channel. I think this test is shown about 30 minutes in.
 
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Realistically, I can judge whether you love them or not based upon your actions and words ...

So in other words, you would be using my thought process as evidence towards that love existing.

Again, feel free to say that evidence isn't very good. But it is there.
 
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