New member to the BMW crowd!

Janesy B · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:40

Joshy said:
Why does it matter than he's only been driving 9 months?

A 523i is far from a fire spitting beat! .

No but I can only start to imagine how much insurance money was spent on this considering the OP's last predicaments. At least he didn't go out and buy an MG ZR, that would have been tragic.

[TW]Fox · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:40

My opinion is based on it being a money pit not that's its rwd tho I guess that's a fair shout.

DM · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:44

Where is the man with the full info on the new beast anyway?

NVP · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:46

...hedge?

Janesy B · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:46

DiamondMark said:
Where is the man with the full info on the new beast anyway?

In the garage already?

We should have a ban on new car threads without pics.

DM · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:47

Surely he aint bitten the dust already

Addicted · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:48

i'd of said more money than sense, but it seems both are lacking in this case.

can he even get insured on a 3.5 v8 at his age? i'm paying just under 1k at 21 for a renaultsport clio 182 (2.0 16v) with 3yr ncb and the best postcode!

Morba · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:49

Addicted said:
i'd of said more money than sense, but it seems both are lacking in this case.

can he even get insured on a 3.5 v8 at his age? i'm paying just under 1k at 21 for a renaultsport clio 182 (2.0 16v) with 3yr ncb and the best postcode!

Its a 523, thats a 2.5 straight 6.

Addicted · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:50

Morba said:
Its a 523, thats a 2.5 straight 6.

ahh ok, i was just going on what was said earlier in the thread, but even so!

Morba · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:51

Joshy said:
Unless he's an idiot it should take more than a 523i to slay him .

Given people write off cars that are only 1ltr every day, a 2.5 with 170bhp is easily into the slayer category

Joshy · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:52

peterattheboro said:
Lack of experience? Aswell as lack of funds to keep the car maintained in a decent fashion possibily means this won't end well

Unless his circumstances have changed.

I'm not denying the maintenance angle, but I'm really not seeing why "lack of experience" would be an issue with a 523i?

Realistically you've not going to get many realdiliy available RWD cars that are any slower. Come on, an automatic one supposedly pops out 0-60 in nearly 10 seconds :eek:

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A poorly built rattly French hatchback would probably feel a lot quicker

Janesy B · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:56

Joshy said:
I'm not denying the maintenance angle, but I'm really not seeing why "lack of experience" would be an issue with a 523i?

Realistically you've not going to get many realdiliy available RWD cars that are any slower. Come on, an automatic one supposedly pops out 0-60 in nearly 10 seconds .

A poorly built rattly French hatchback would probably feel a lot quicker

It's not so much the speed, just the way the car reacts when loss of grip occurs. 0-60 times aside, the car can still hit reasonable speed without much effort compared to other cars.

Morba · 30 Dec 2010 at 12:58

Joshy said:
I'm not denying the maintenance angle, but I'm really not seeing why "lack of experience" would be an issue with a 523i?

Realistically you've not going to get many realdiliy available RWD cars that are any slower. Come on, an automatic one supposedly pops out 0-60 in nearly 10 seconds .

A poorly built rattly French hatchback would probably feel a lot quicker

And that huge hefty lump, with rwd, when moving and needs to be stopping because of a corner / obstruction is where things matter. Not 0-60 or 1/4 mile time

Joshy · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:13

Janesy B said:
It's not so much the speed, just the way the car reacts when loss of grip occurs.

You react in exactly the same way that you would do in a FWD car - You freeze, pull a funny face and hope that somehow you don't hit anything solid

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Morba said:
And that huge hefty lump, with rwd, when moving and needs to be stopping because of a corner / obstruction is where things matter. Not 0-60 or 1/4 mile time

But it is still monumentality slow. If he does get into a situation where he is going to stick it into a hedge he would have got there because he was driving like a clown, not because he was driving a RWD barge.

RWD + Youth does not necessarily equal insta-death gentlemen

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Janesy B · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:20

Joshy said:
You react in exactly the same way that you would do in a FWD car - You freeze, pull a funny face and hope that somehow you don't hit anything solid .

I'm pretty sure I've been a couple of situations when I first started driving where a bit of FWD washout occurred, if I was in something powered by the rear wheels I probably would have swapped ends.

Joshy said:
RWD + Youth does not necessarily equal insta-death gentlemen .

I don't think people are insinuating that, it's just a different skillset.

DM · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:24

Joshy said:
You react in exactly the same way that you would do in a FWD car - You freeze, pull a funny face and hope that somehow you don't hit anything solid .

Thats exactly right, then you pull over sweating and amazed you missed everything, unless of course you crashed, then you have already stopped

Disco Boy · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:29

Joshy said:
But it is still monumentality slow.

I don't know what your first car was but a 2.5L 6 cylinder BMW is far from monumentally slow when compared to most first cars.

Morba · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:30

Joshy said:
But it is still monumentality slow. If he does get into a situation where he is going to stick it into a hedge he would have got there because he was driving like a clown, not because he was driving a RWD barge.

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It will do high speeds easily, for you to think different is very naive.

Sparky · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:30

Is this of the dodgy water-system variety?

DM · 30 Dec 2010 at 13:33

CS||nuTs said:
Is this of the dodgy water-system variety?

Yea but that dont matter if he's already crashed