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Yep.... fortunate enough to find two players who have a Ace (with SH** kickers) lol..... Only for them to get their Ace on the river.

Well sure that part sucks. :-(

However that is a match-up you want EVERYTIME preflop. That's the way to be a long term winner in online poker really. If you check your opponents' stats, I can virtually GUARANTEE they are losing players. You should be OK with them hitting once in awhile because it gives poor players the delusion of them being better than they actually are.

The odds of both of them hitting in this particular hand was quite poor, but odds are odds, and it does happen. If you play against these types all the time your good decisions will translate into consistent profits. It's simple math.
 
Nearly forgot about this thread.

I'd like to use this to discuss strategy and general online poker experiences.

Here is a question for you.

-Tourny has just started
-Blinds are 10/20
-You are given KK outside of blinds
-Player just after the big blind raises to 40
-The next player raises to 80
-Players in the blinds call
-I raise all on 1,500


Honest answers, would you have done the same?

Nope. You'll be able to read them a little better on the turn depending on your bets (maybe half to full pot size), or in fact even on the river if they called you on the turn. People hate paying to see cards.

While I'm posting, does anyone subscribe to any good poker channels on youtube?
 
Well sure that part sucks. :-(

However that is a match-up you want EVERYTIME preflop. That's the way to be a long term winner in online poker really. If you check your opponents' stats, I can virtually GUARANTEE they are losing players. You should be OK with them hitting once in awhile because it gives poor players the delusion of them being better than they actually are.

The odds of both of them hitting in this particular hand was quite poor, but odds are odds, and it does happen. If you play against these types all the time your good decisions will translate into consistent profits. It's simple math.

Yep :)

I couldve played that game as slow as a snail.. I doubt either of them wouldve given up their aces before the river. Makes me mad lol!
 
Hello gang. This thread popped up in my Google alerts so I hope you don't mind me dropping in.

Poker calculators do not teach you anything really, at least things you should now know already. Think of them the same as you would a math calculator. You could really survive without one if you had to, but what's the point?

It's nice to say you would rather do everything yourself, but ALL serious players use some kind of poker software that includes profiling and odds. The main reason for this is multi-tabling. Most profitable players play several (even many) tables at the same time, so when it's their turn on any particular table, a poker calculator gives all the information they need to make instantaneous decisions. That may be odds information, but also, and more importantly profiling data on their opponent. That type of data often sways a decision 180 degrees. If you don't have that data, you simply cannot make profits long term in online poker.

I might also point out about those looking to move "UP" to live games should be looking to do it only for the experience and excitement, but NOT as a way to replace playing poker online. You cannot possibly make as much playing live poker due to a significantly slower deal and the limitation of playing only one table at a time. There IS a reason the PRO players play online too, and you just read it here!

If you want to learn more using such software, you can find my poker calculator videos on Youtube under "Turtleknife".

Thanks for signing up and giving us your input. Starting to think these Poker Calculators do nothing but profit on people's hopes.

Must admit I downloaded one a while back. Seemed pretty cool until I realised that I had to pay for the full on package. I'll continue to use my head.

Im pretty weak in large (5000+ people) MTTs.... Any tips?
 
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I consider myself a fairly clued up on poker, but one of the things I always wondered about people who play online (with calculators) is that eventually, if you have a 10 player table and the majority (say 8 or 9 of them) are using a poker calculator, then theoretically speaking (over time), no one will "proft" per se surely?
 
Trust me I first played live last year at a casino in London. I was dropping bricks. Palms wet..... Feet tapping lol!

It was at that moment I realised I was more suited to online play. Most of the opponents online are so trigger happy its unreal. So easy to lure them into a bad outcome!

Online is much harder than live for the equivalent stakes - if you're consistent online then you should probably give live another go at some point.
 
Yep online is harder than live. Physical tells are nowhere near as important as people think.

I have pokerstove and after using it for quite a while I can get a rough figure percentage wise in my head of my equity with it being fairly accurate. It is a useful tool for running hand ranges against each other.

Pokertracker is a great piece of softwarebut if you just play small stakes tournaments and don't multitable then I can't see it being much use to you.
 
I prefer online. Simply because you're playing the game in its true form. You dont have to read faces or body langueage!

Not keen on the idea of paying for these calculators
 
Im pretty weak in large (5000+ people) MTTs.... Any tips?

With 5,000 entries MOST players could be considered weak in a field like that. I think the largest field I won was about 2,200 entries back when Party Poker was swimming with guppies.

If you are going to play online tournaments, one of the best strategies I could suggest are playing the STT-MTTs which are multi-table tournaments of smaller fields that start whenever they fill up.

I have had my best success online with these, as they are finished in reasonable time, attract a lot of weak players, and new ones start every few minutes. They range from 27 players to 180 players and are very popular on Full Tilt and Poker Stars.
 
Yep online is harder than live. Physical tells are nowhere near as important as people think.

I have pokerstove and after using it for quite a while I can get a rough figure percentage wise in my head of my equity with it being fairly accurate. It is a useful tool for running hand ranges against each other.

Pokertracker is a great piece of softwarebut if you just play small stakes tournaments and don't multitable then I can't see it being much use to you.

look on sit and go grinders, you will find what you need there
 
I play online a lot. I deposited $50 about 2 years ago and started studying the game as well. Playing mostly cash games starting at the $2 (0.01c/0.02c blinds) buyins and moving up eventually to $100 ($0.50c/$1 blinds) buyins i've made around $6000. I only play tournaments occasionally as they tend to bore me rigid but i recently finished 3rd out of a field of more than 1200 and made $2300. Not bad for one nights work.

I'm no pro or anything but its nice to earn a little bit of money from a hobby :)
 
I must admit that cockyness and lack of self control use to be problem. Id say within the last few month my game play can only be described as humble.

I do have my silly moments but Im getting better. My mid finish percentage has slowly improved!
 
Nearly forgot about this thread.

I'd like to use this to discuss strategy and general online poker experiences.

Here is a question for you.

-Tourny has just started
-Blinds are 10/20
-You are given KK outside of blinds
-Player just after the big blind raises to 40
-The next player raises to 80
-Players in the blinds call
-I raise all on 1,500


Honest answers, would you have done the same?

Few situational things:

Early in tournament (but you didn’t state what type of tourney). Freeroll / $5+1 9man SnG / $10,000 WSOP main event. Etc. Position is key in NL hold'em and you’ve given a general position. Well i dont even know where you are in this hand... You've either flat called the 20, or called the 40, otherwise you wouldnt be able to re-raise all in after the blinds call the 80. (i say again position is VERY important).

Generally your play is a nono. But in freerolls and very cheap tournaments it maybe a little bit acceptable as you will get a lot of donkey’s that will go all in first hand with any 2, AK down to A - rag , and any 2 paint. Having said that, in these type of tournaments you will often get more than one All-In caller, and your KK vs 3-5 people isn’t a huge favourite. So to me still a no

In more serious tournaments, id say No for sure... because anyone who calls the 1500 raise, on a pot that contains just 320-400 is either a.) a donkey (and you get lucky once or twice) or b.) has you beat with AA.

So to analyse, you have a min raise (could be sign of strength), another min raise again (could be strength - but very odd play). At some point it comes back to you with KK, Personally I would 4-bet (1st bet is the Big Blind, 2nd is raise to 40, 3rd is re-raise to 80. So a 4th bet should signify very strong holdings.) The amount 2.5-5x the current amount. Usually 2.5-4x is enough. A raise like that says your serious and your willing to commit large chunk of your stack. Also gives you enough room if you get a caller and the flop comes an Ace and you give him credit for it, you can fold and your still deep enough to grind it back. If someone 5-bets you all in. You have a decision to make. GL
 
Main thread is here by the way: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17902913

I've been playing poker for 2 years now. I play live with my friends, like a £5 buyin, and I always win (they don't play with me anymore).

I love online poker, but havnt had much success. I have deposited around £30 overall into fulltilt and not made anything, mainly due to inexperience. However I bought my self a book "Sit n Go Strategy", and it's really opened my eyes and improved my game.

I only like Sit n Gos, however the other night I played my first Rush poker on FT, where you fold a hand and instantly given another hand at a new table. I made it to last table and finished 9th for $30, my biggest win (First place was $350, doh! should have played better!). But then I lost it all playing more rush poker all through the night when tired, and made terrible decisions. (next door had a huge houseparty and couldnt sleep)

I am trying to have a certain degree of self control and not deposit anything until next pay day, and deposit a bigger bankroll. At the moment I just minimum deposit $10 on FT which isn't a good idea because of downswings etc, so might deposit nearer $50 next time and try play more rush poker.

Rush poker suites my style of play and theres so many idiots playing it, I just need more self control.
 
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Holy crap..Going back to my post where I lost my bankroll playing poker all night because of next doors house party keeping me up, just opened my newspaper at lunch and see an article on this:

People who have not slept well are more likely to take bigger gambling risks than when they are fully rested..

Going on to talk about poker and casinos etc. I learnt the hard way not to play when tired!

Britboy do you find PKR has lots of fish because of its graphics or?
 
Few situational things:

Early in tournament (but you didn’t state what type of tourney). Freeroll / $5+1 9man SnG / $10,000 WSOP main event. Etc. Position is key in NL hold'em and you’ve given a general position. Well i dont even know where you are in this hand... You've either flat called the 20, or called the 40, otherwise you wouldnt be able to re-raise all in after the blinds call the 80. (i say again position is VERY important).

Generally your play is a nono. But in freerolls and very cheap tournaments it maybe a little bit acceptable as you will get a lot of donkey’s that will go all in first hand with any 2, AK down to A - rag , and any 2 paint. Having said that, in these type of tournaments you will often get more than one All-In caller, and your KK vs 3-5 people isn’t a huge favourite. So to me still a no

In more serious tournaments, id say No for sure... because anyone who calls the 1500 raise, on a pot that contains just 320-400 is either a.) a donkey (and you get lucky once or twice) or b.) has you beat with AA.

So to analyse, you have a min raise (could be sign of strength), another min raise again (could be strength - but very odd play). At some point it comes back to you with KK, Personally I would 4-bet (1st bet is the Big Blind, 2nd is raise to 40, 3rd is re-raise to 80. So a 4th bet should signify very strong holdings.) The amount 2.5-5x the current amount. Usually 2.5-4x is enough. A raise like that says your serious and your willing to commit large chunk of your stack. Also gives you enough room if you get a caller and the flop comes an Ace and you give him credit for it, you can fold and your still deep enough to grind it back. If someone 5-bets you all in. You have a decision to make. GL

Next time I play (Which I hope will be tonight) I'll try to post up the game details.

Thanks for the response.
 
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