the pronounciation of the words...

jellybeard999 said:
What do you mean there's no H in it? It's not even a word is it, just phonetically writing down how you think it should be pronounced. Given the letter you're trying to pronounce is H, surely there's a stronger case for it having one than not.
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Bit like "L" being pronounced "Lell", "N" being "Nen" and "R" being "Rar" then... Oh wait... ;)
 
My favourite thing that shows the Scottish accent and way of saying things is this, in the 90's there was a player with Celtic called "Annoni" and a mate that was at a game heard somebody say "Aw naw, theres Annoni on anaw noo". When it's said out loud to anybody that isn't Scottish it's just gibberish.
 
deko said:
My favourite thing that shows the Scottish accent and way of saying things is this, in the 90's there was a player with Celtic called "Annoni" and a mate that was at a game heard somebody say "Aw naw, theres Annoni on anaw noo". When it's said out loud to anybody that isn't Scottish it's just gibberish.
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It's gibberish written down as well.....:confused:
 
Freefaller said:
For a Johnny foreigner I speak what I've been told is "posh" or "BBC English" - whatever that means! Quite funny really. I'm sure those that have met me will be able to describe my accent properly. For the record, I pronounce them so that they rhyme with "arse".

As for the OP, I don't know where the accent changes - probably as you get towards the Midlands I would imagine. Certainly the SW and SE parts of the country have always pronounced it the way I do.

Although received pronounciation is a way of speaking, I wouldn't call it "the correct way". Accents are just part and parcel of it all. :)
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RP is a skill every person in the UK should learn. It's only in my lifetime that people have rejected it as part of the reverse snobbery movement.

RP allows someone from Glasgow to speak to someone from London with no difficulty.

However people with an accent as an affectation or who point blank refuse to moderate their accent to assist someone else to understand them are becoming more common.

Up here, in Scotland there's a brain fail that seems to have people thinking it's a sign of weakness to speak properly. Differently down in southern England there's an opinion that the way they speak is the correct way. Neither attitude is correct, and neither is helpful.

RP is the way forward, nobody has the accent normally but everybody can apply it. We need to start frowning on those who refuse to use RP.
 
Oh I agree I think RP is great - and I'd advocate it as a skill, but not as an accent that everyone should speak. Accents and regional variations are part of the charm of life!
 
The Halk said:
It's only in my lifetime that people have rejected it as part of the reverse snobbery movement.
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Interesting point actually, I've seen reverse snobbery more and more over the last 10 or 20 years. There seems to be a particular disdain of late for anyone wanting to make a better life for themselves that ends up with them being reffered to as "up themselves", "snobs" "forgetting their roots and who they are" and a whole range of other digs.

Whatever happened to "good on them" for grafting, working hard or just having a bit of good luck and generaly trying to make a better life for them and their family.

It's a bit of a can of worms I know, and in that spirit here's a sweeping generalisation or two! :)

The UK has so much going for it as a great place to live and raise a family (despite what some would say about "can't wait to live somewhere, anywhere, else"). Having said that we really could do with a lot more of the positivity and aspirational mindset that I see more often as the "default" attitude in countries like Australia and the US. I know we seem to love an underdog in the UK (which is a good thing IMHO), but why do we then want to knock down anyone who does well.

I just don't get it...

Sorry, blatent derail there....
 
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Athanor, I think you're right. I see it too. I actually think it's more rampant up here in the West of Scotland than elsewhere.

I agree with Freefaller, and that's what I was getting at. It should be a skill everybody learns. When I say someone refuses to speak RP I mean they refuse to use it in a situation where it would help. People should not have to lose their accents or identity.
 
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