Whats the law on people "getting Half" in a seperation?

Halfmad said:
It's more fair than you keep everything even though she's lived there and supported you, relationships aren't one way and if they are then frankly you shouldn't live with a partner to begin with :p
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To be more specific, my O/H is a full time student.

I pay:
Mortgage and other associated costs.
Bills (council tax, gas, elec, tv, internet)
Groceries (including all the womans essentials and pet food for her pet)
Major Furnishings
Gifts for her

She pays:
Fags
Dresses
Shoes
Bags

Now since I neither smoke nor crossdress, I'm not sure I agree with your point. But given the situation where she was not a full time student, and I asked her to pay her share of the groceries only, do you honestly believe that in the event of a seperation that this entitles her to a share of the property I solely invested in?
 
aln said:
Me and the gf live in a house together, which I pay 100% upkeep for. If we were then to split grocery shopping, I'd lose 50% of my investment if things go bad and she was so inclined?

I've heard this before, but it honestly doesn't make sense to me that that'd be considered fair.
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I understood it to be only after a certain number of years. Something like 10. I would be surprised if she got much then as well. If you are paying for 50% of the costs of living in the house (anything disposable or consumable) then she has noting to link her to the actual property.
 
You can make a pre-nup contractually binding within the UK. This is the way you do it:
1) Write the pre-nup to say what you want it to
2) Add a clause saying that you understand that the pre-nup may not be legally binding but it sets out each parties firm expectations. Also, that both parties agree to, once married enter in to a post-nuptial agreement on the same terms and conditions within one month of the marriage.
3) Sign
4) Get married
5) Change the word 'pre-nup' to 'post-nup' and sign again
6)????
7) Profit.

Get legal advice or, if you're actually worried about your woman stealing all your stuff when she divorces you....don't get married.
 
Its not true that everything is split. If there are no children, its generally considered that people split what they had shared, my neighbour has currently seperated from his wife, they were married 20 years, it was his house, he has paid the mortgage and she hasnt paid a penny, she assumed she would be entitled to half the house, she isnt entitled to any of it according to her lawyer.
 
I can understand the issue with people having mortgages and people being able to argue they had a part in contributing to paying the mortgage, beit directly or via other means of support like paying bills and grocerys etc... But if one party had a property paid for prior to the relationship how can there be any justifaction for any right to it?

I understand if say you both payed for a kitchen to be put in the I suppose its "fair" to give them back the cost of the kitchen they no longer can use etc...
But any bills payed would surely come under their living expenses as well, seeing as they would no longer have those expenses to pay when seperated how would that class as a stake?
 
aln said:
do you honestly believe that in the event of a seperation that this entitles her to a share of the property I solely invested in?
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If you are married she will almost certainly get a huge chunk, possibly even the largest chunk of your property. Even though you've put all the money into the house they will see that her role was to "make the home" and is far harder work than working a 50 hour week in the freezing rain (or whatever hardships your job entails). My job deals with splits and divorces all the time and I see plenty of blokes get taken apart in financial settlements, it's even worse if you've got kids. From what I've seen the only way to keep all your own assets is to have none - or kill her, but don't do that.
 
I read about this since that other thread kicked off. This is my understanding.

A - date relationship started
B - date relationship ended

Wealth obtained between A and B is divisible.
Wealth obtained before A is none of their damn business.
Wealth obtained after B follows these clauses:

1. If you have kids you have to support the kids
2. If your spouse has been dependent, or left their job to be a parent, you have to support them too.
3. You can create a contract to say all future earnings are yours once the divorce is finalised, with the exception of the above obligations.

You can't have a divorce because you feel like it, but the rules are easy to fake:
1. Shagging someone else
2. Generally being difficult to live with, abusive, etc.
3. Being apart for ages
4. Something else

One person has to divorce the other - although one person just agrees not to defend themselves against the divorce.
 
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I_M_Weasel said:
If you are married she will almost certainly get a huge chunk, possibly even the largest chunk of your property. Even though you've put all the money into the house they will see that her role was to "make the home" and is far harder work than working a 50 hour week in the freezing rain (or whatever hardships your job entails). My job deals with splits and divorces all the time and I see plenty of blokes get taken apart in financial settlements, it's even worse if you've got kids. From what I've seen the only way to keep all your own assets is to have none - or kill her, but don't do that.
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Would this count if the property was already paid for before the two people had even met?
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Would this count if the property was already paid for before the two people had even met?
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From what I've seen - Yes. However if you're only married a very short period of time you'll be ok but get over a year into the marriage and expect to hand over an awful lot of the money.

Courts are supposed to be fair but women are in the driving seat, they tend to look at men and think "oh you'll be alright" but think they'd better help the women out as her earning potential is lower.

Oddly if its the women who brings all the assets to the marriage she'll probably keep those assets (or most of them) in the divorce.

From what I've seen, if you're a man only marry if you're absolutely certain because if it goes wrong all the hours you've put in at work will count for nothing or at least not as much as her hours of Jeremy Kyle.
 
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aln said:
Me and the gf live in a house together, which I pay 100% upkeep for. If we were then to split grocery shopping, I'd lose 50% of my investment if things go bad and she was so inclined?

I've heard this before, but it honestly doesn't make sense to me that that'd be considered fair.
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I guess it depends on a lot of things, time spent living together. How financially dependant he/she was living with u. Then its up to the jury/judge if its disputed by family members. (This is in the event of the death of the person who owns the house.)

If you're not married and you just separate, i don't think the other person is entitled to anything in your name..?
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Would this count if the property was already paid for before the two people had even met?
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Yes:) I'm pretty sure. As soon as you sign on that dotted line, if you split up, by law she is entitled to 50% of everything and you 50%.

Cant believe it when the super rich like Paul Mccartney get married and dont have anything in place to protect his fortune if things go wrong as it did. She was entitled to so much more than she got, if it werent for the newspapers she wouldve.

Anna Nicole Smith's divorce is a good example. My cousin is getting divorced, not messy, but he was telling me, he has to give a certain percentage of his earnings even in the future...? Never heard that one before.
 
Deyvy said:
Yes:) I'm pretty sure. As soon as you sign on that dotted line, if you split up, by law she is entitled to 50% of everything and you 50%.
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No, this is not the case. In fact 50/50 should only really come about when you're talking about massive amounts of cash so in effect it wont make any difference to either persons standard of living. say you have 50 million, will you change the way you live if you give half to your ex? No, you'll shop at the same places, drive the same cars, holiday where you like.
 
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As an aside side not to this thread . Just thought i would mention the Legal Aid side of divorce.

The current government is changing the legal aid system yet again. The latest changes pretty much remove legal aid from most existing family law cases except those where violence is proven.

i.e no legal aid for the vast majority of divorce cases. In addition creating massive injustice in cases involving partners where one party has significant wealth compared to the other. Not forgetting removing access to justice and English law for hundreds of thousands of people every year.
 
Stupido said:
i.e no legal aid for the vast majority of divorce cases. In addition creating massive injustice in cases involving partners where one party has significant wealth compared to the other.
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Legal aid did need looking at, my ex (never worked or paid tax) sent me an enormous amount of letters from her solicitors which I then needed to respond to costing me an enormous amount of money. The amount of money I had to spend to defend myself was ridiculous and had the case gone on and on I may have had to concede even though I was in the right (backed up by the judge ultimately). Of course I could have claimed the costs back which would have cost even more and she wouldn't have had to pay anyway because she doesn't work.
 
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