Sex Education

I asked that if we're going to not punish under age sex, why have the law? This is NOT the same as saying we SHOULD punish it. RDM then answered this question.

Ask yourself why the law is there... it's not to stop young people having sex until then, is it?
 
That's fine, but I do fear in the eyes of under-16s that it makes the law come across as "toothless" - especially as they don't consider the reasons as such.

I don't have any suggestions on how to fix a problem like that, mind.
 
Is this not dependant on the child? You can't assume this method would work for the whole country. Some children will still lack those qualities no matter how much you teach them.

It seems to be a much better approach than "Tell them not to have sex." though. Much the same as the "Tell them not to drink." message seems to be failing completely. How can you consider it common sense to keep doing the same old thing on the hopes it will eventually work?

The UK has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in Europe, the town I live in one of the highest in the country. I am certainly going to make sure that my daughter is as prepared as possible to make the right decisions rather than just say "No!" and hope she does as I say.

I think possibly the saddest thing of the school talk we had last week was the general tittering and childish attitude that too many of the parents had when it came to discussing sex education.
 
That's fine, but I do fear in the eyes of under-16s that it makes the law come across as "toothless" - especially as they don't consider the reasons as such.

I don't have any suggestions on how to fix a problem like that, mind.

Did you have those doubts when you were under 16?

Is this not dependant on the child? You can't assume this method would work for the whole country. Some children will still lack those qualities no matter how much you teach them.

Did you lack those qualities when you were under 16?
 
Did you have those doubts when you were under 16?

That the law was toothless? No - I simply practised safe sex because I didn't want to be a teenage father.

Did you lack those qualities when you were under 16?

Undoubtedly so.

It seems to be a much better approach than "Tell them not to have sex." though. Much the same as the "Tell them not to drink." message seems to be failing completely. How can you consider it common sense to keep doing the same old thing on the hopes it will eventually work?

"Telling them not to have sex" is a very simplistic view on it. Obviously you don't sit them down at school and make them write lines or something like that. But what's wrong with teaching children that the legal age is 16 and that should ideally be adhered to? You're still going to get those who carry on regardless but I expect this would catch some of those who are willing to listen?

The UK has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in Europe, the town I live in one of the highest in the country. I am certainly going to make sure that my daughter is as prepared as possible to make the right decisions rather than just say "No!" and hope she does as I say.

Of course, this is another thing. A school or the TV can only do so much - good advice from parents is paramount.

I think possibly the saddest thing of the school talk we had last week was the general tittering and childish attitude that too many of the parents had when it came to discussing sex education.

Parents? I remember my sex ed being broken up by the jocks laughing at condoms and flicking them at each other. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm a teacher and I assure you the stuff kids know is scary. Even kids at 14-15 know pretty much all there is to know.

Thats the internet for you.
 
I'm a teacher and I assure you the stuff kids know is scary. Even kids at 14-15 know pretty much all there is to know.

Thats the internet for you.

Not here in Stoke.
I was a Support Officer to around 120 x 14 to 16 year old girls who came to me all the time with problems and I was shocked by what they didn't know.
 
Not here in Stoke.
I was a Support Officer to around 120 x 14 to 16 year old girls who came to me all the time with problems and I was shocked by what they didn't know.

I think that's the problem, they know a little, think they know a lot, but don't know anything about safe sex and the risks of doing it without protection. They copy all the porn and what not, and considering they are doing it anyway, we need to be in the classrooms ramming home the risks of not using protection and treating them like young adults and not ignoring it and trying to save face.

The media is partly responsible for this, I remember being really disappointed by one episode of Sex and the City where the older of the vapid bunch goes for an STD test and then worries about the results, with the episode even pointing you in the direction of it being bad, really bad, but no, she gets off scot free despite having what seems like unprotected sex with a different guy each episode. It would have been great if she really had of gotten Aids or at least something curable just as a one off to hit home the reality of having such a fantastically varied sex life. I guess that was to much to ask from Sex and the City though, such a waste of an opportunity to level with the female population.
 
I think that's the problem, they know a little, think they know a lot, but don't know anything about safe sex and the risks of doing it without protection.

I'll give one of many examples during a lesson which left me gobsmacked.
An incident had happened which prompted one 15/16 year old girl to ask me 'Sir, can you get pregnant on your fist time?' :eek:
I then put it to the class and the main answer was that you had to do it at least 5 times before you could get pregnant :eek:
This prompted me to get a proper sex educator in for the 2 Cohorts which was an eye opener and the female educator virtually said your sentence word for word to me after.
 

It doesn't matter. My point is that "experts" can and have been wrong. Their research can harp on and on until it's blue in the face but unless it makes a difference in the real world... who cares?

After all, how long has the UK had the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe?
 
I think that's the problem, they know a little, think they know a lot, but don't know anything about safe sex and the risks of doing it without protection.

Someone who I know that works with 14-18 year olds told me something quite disturbing a few weeks ago.

Project Worker: Are you using protection when you are having sex?
Teen: Yeah, I drink a can of Dr Pepper a day.


It's a truly scary world :(.
 
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