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[TW]Fox;18389570 said:
I started off considering the 6970 route but from what I've been reading the 6970 is inferior in some games - games I play.

It gets quite badly shown up in Dirt2, for example:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950/20
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Fair enough, but you're talking about the difference between 77FPS and 96FPS - a difference that is likely to be indistinguishable in game - is that really worth nearly £80?
 
In that scenario, sure - but what about Dirt 3? etc. I'm using those results as an indication of the performance gap between the cards.

It's a difference of over 20%.
 
In one game?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306

This suggests they are pretty evenly matched - sure there are games where the 570 outperforms it, but these are at frame rates where it simply does not matter. You'll also notice as the load/resolution gets higher and frame rates get lower, the gap closes up.

If they were the same price, then I'd say go for it (and I probably would have joined you!), but it makes no sense to spend all that money for such little gain.
 
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I'd quickly discount what Fox was saying too, if it wasn't a DX11 game - since DX11 is what we'd expect to be using on the cards in 2-3 years time.... Right now he won't be able to buy a card that will struggle, but in 2-3 years time he wants to have made the right choice.

Is the Dirt2 bench a freak result due to a driver problem, or the game doing less on the 5 series... or is the 6 lacking in some areas?
 
The Radeons suffer on the BC2 Water Bench as well, seems they have issues rendering scenes like that quickly?

The GTX570 just seems like a better card. The issue seems to be 'Is it £60 better' rather than 'Is it better'. It beats the 6970 in BC2 all round, infact.

Plus, the GTX570 is overclockable whereas a 6950 @ 6970 is already overclocked..?
 
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[TW]Fox;18389747 said:
The Radeons suffer on the BC2 Water Bench as well, seems they have issues rendering scenes like that quickly?

The GTX570 just seems like a better card. The issue seems to be 'Is it £60 better' rather than 'Is it better'. It beats the 6970 in BC2 all round, infact.

Plus, the GTX570 is overclockable whereas a 6950 @ 6970 is already overclocked..?
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The 6950 I have can overclock to 975Mhz (from 800Mhz). I doubt many 570s can do that ;)

It is true that the Waterfall benchmark favours nVidia but to be honest my main game is BFBC2 and it is butter smooth there, never seen low FPS there like I used to with my overclocked 460.#

In fact a 6970 is faster than a 570 in the Chase Bench at 2560x1600 - the res I play at!

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Dirt 2 is one of those games that runs better on nvidia cards. It runs better on my GTX 460 than it does on the slightly faster ATI 5850 as shown in card reviews etc. Far cry 2 was the same. It doesn't really alter the fact that the 6970 won't run it as fast as a GTX 570 but I wouldn't let this put me off a card. Some games prefer ATI, some prefer Nvidia. I'm happy to buy either and you can't have both!
 
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In the Chase bench, there is 2FPS in it.

I don't know what the Waterfall bench is, but is it really that relevant to real game play?

Also, the price difference is £70, not £60, and the answer is no.
 
Look at Crysis too...

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I think these cards are pretty much even but if you value noise I would go for the 570 as my 6950 is not the quietest card I've ever had.

Just watch the overvolting as there are reports all over the net of 570s dying like flies when you push up the voltage on these.
 
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