Recycling is a load of rubbish.

They buy it off us as a sorted raw material, so I'm guessing all of it.

I can't comment on electrical goods, but I would expect the days of dumping waste electronic goods on the third world are well over, thanks to WEEE directive.
 
Tefal said:
how much actually gets recycled abroad though and not just dumped like the huge amounts of electronics we ditch in the third world?
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Well since we got very good money per tonne for aluminiium and glass and reasonable money for paper and carboard, it would be daft for them to buy it from us and then pay to have it dumped in a landfill!
 
Jonny69 said:
I think some of you are missing the point about recycling. The two main issues are a lack of landfill space and the damage that landfill actually causes with regards to leachate and rendering large quantities of land useless.
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The apparent lack of space for landfill is a little bit of rubbish in itself, there's plenty of room, just it seems like there isn't in part due to poor business ventures like the Mobro 4000 fiasco.

Some re-cycling is bad, for example; paper. The stuff will biodegrade and consuming new paper creates demand for farmed forests, almost all of which are sustainable or greater than sustainable. Use more new paper > make more trees, throw the stuff away > make more oil, slowly.

Some re-cycling is debatable, for example plastic: Most only photodegrades, so it will stay in the ground for ****** ages. But re-cycling it is very expensive, produces a lot of carbon and lots of useless chemical waste. Plastic is evil, we need more biodegradable plastic.

Some re-cycling is 100% good, for example; metal and glass. It's more cost effective to recycle it than dump it in the ground. It's also more expensive to make more than to use re-cycled stuff.




My opinion on how councils should do re-cycling is that we should copy the states: All the rubbish in one bin, the one bin into one truck, the one truck into the local prison, the prisoners sort it, it goes its own seperate ways.
 
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Jonny69 said:
I think some of you are missing the point about recycling. The two main issues are a lack of landfill space and the damage that landfill actually causes with regards to leachate and rendering large quantities of land useless.

Recycling is good, landfilling is bad. Even if there isn't an environmental gain to be made by recycling.
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I recently watched a Penn & Teller Bull**** episode that completely wiped that myth out of the water.
Yes it was America but I'm sure it transposes to here.

here's the first 10 mins and the other 2 are also there -
 
EVH said:
Same down here.

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Plastic 2L Milk bottle - yes
Lid for the very same bottle - no

Hmmmmm
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All down to the type of plastic used. If you think about it if they made the lid out of the same flimsy ass **** they make the bottle out of it would leak everywhere.

What i want to see is some bloody polystyrene recycling. Whenever we buy anything the only thing i can do is break it up and put it in the bin when it should be fairly easy to recycle it!
 
Zogger said:
Article / survey is exaggerating though, the numbers aren't as high as they say in practice



I live in Guildford and we don't have 7 containers. We have two recycling containers (cardboard / paper and plastic / glass), a food waste container and a wheelie bin. Garden waste is an optional one that you have to pay for. I'm not sure what else they're referring to to make it up to 7, maybe the fact that you get a smaller food waste container to keep indoors and 2 large ones in case you have too much (which makes perfect sense), maybe the optional extra wheelie bin.

It's fine for me..
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Big up the surrey massive

Woking here with 3 bins
 
I recycle if I can be bothered, most of the time it just goes into the bin. There are "rules" as to what I'm allowed to put in the recycling bin - I seriously cannot be arsed to clean/sort my rubbish out. I'm afraid I don't give a toss about recycling I think it's a waste of time, besides I pay my council tax, they can bloody well do it.
 
We have 4 bins for waste, paper and garden and our own for the "recycle point" round the corner.

I agree that too much food has poor packaging, why does a chicken need a plastic tray, infact why does any meat or fruit? The local butcher wouldnt do it so its the supermarkets to blame, they must profit from it some where its the only reason i can think of!

Ive also lost count of the amount of cpus or sd cards i've received in a box the equivalent of a crate of beer, ocuk not the worst offender, but house holders are being made to pay for sloppy distribution
 
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I wince when I have to drive through Stoke-on-Trent, because some colour blind moron on the council ordered fluorescent electric blue bins for everyone, Jebus they make my eyes burn !!!

Way to go Stoke Council, as if Stoke wasn't ugly enough.



I wish I could drop my cardboard/paper in another bin and just have a monthly pickup, instead they give us a silly insert bin which is awkward to use and too small.
Some places don't even recycle glass, which is a bit odd.
 
One big wheelie bin for recycling here, bags for landfill rubbish. Makes it easier to recycle than landfill, not sure I'd bother so much with those multiple-bin setups.
 
Freefaller said:
I recycle if I can be bothered, most of the time it just goes into the bin. There are "rules" as to what I'm allowed to put in the recycling bin - I seriously cannot be arsed to clean/sort my rubbish out. I'm afraid I don't give a toss about recycling I think it's a waste of time, besides I pay my council tax, they can bloody well do it.
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gizmoy2k said:
I agree that too much food has poor packaging, why does a chicken need a plastic tray, infact why does any meat or fruit? The local butcher wouldnt do it so its the supermarkets to blame, they must profit from it some where its the only reason i can think of!
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To protect it whilst in the supply chain. They way stock gets treated sometimes, a solid metal box wouldn't even be enough.
 
OldCoals said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12489559



In my opinion the current recycling strategy is a royal pain in the backside. It is bad enough having lots of bins but on top of that only certain types of plastics for example can go in the plastics bin, the same for tins and paper.

I also think recycling is very wasteful, for example should the aim not be to stop the production of unnecessary packaging, the savings would be massive compared to recycling, you don't need the initial raw materials or energy cost of production and thus you do not the energy cost of recycling.

It is so obvious to me, am I wrong?
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The wife and to a lesser extent, my 11 year old are recycling nuts, different bins for this and different bins for that, we even have a swill bin....

Then I come along and dump everything and anything in the nearest bin to me and they go mental....

Little do they know that it is all part of the "don't ask Daddy to clean up, wash up or do housework" strategy. So far the mission is progressing at a pace....:)
 
I stick everything in a black bag, put it outside my house once a week on a Thursday, nice men pick it up and chuck it somewhere, gawd I hate my council, I really want them to mess with my head a bit and make me fanny about with what waste goes where.

With me just chucking everything in one black bag I've probably killed two Polar bears today. I'm inconsolable, I'm going to complain to my local council.

I need to earn green good feeling points and make myself feel brilliant and self important, I need to save the planet now (It'll die in about 4 billion years time but I want to do my self important bit to save a few years)
 
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Never recycle anything and never will. So the government will be fined by the EU for filling up landfill, well that isn't my problem. I didn't ask for this country to become overpopulated and I won't help them mitigate its consequences.
 
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