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Thats stockhausen for you.
Auschwitz
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Thats stockhausen for you.
the tour guides at the site are very good, not sure if they have group size restrictions but they do a great job explaining what your seeing and injecting personal stories about the camp.
make sure you see both main sites (the 3rd is just a factory area i believe and we skipped it)
well worth the experiance, plus krakow is a lovely place. its also worth visiting the salt mines (not as rubbish as it sounds) just outside of the city. the miners during their breaks carved beautiful statues and even a church in the walls and its great just wondering around.
make sure you see both main sites (the 3rd is just a factory area i believe and we skipped it)
well worth the experiance, plus krakow is a lovely place. its also worth visiting the salt mines (not as rubbish as it sounds) just outside of the city. the miners during their breaks carved beautiful statues and even a church in the walls and its great just wondering around.
Im not really sure why this had to come up in a thread about Auschwitz, the two are very different and not something to try and compare.
I don't intend on playing any part of turning this thread into a discussion about the Palestinians and the Israelis, which is sad current event so I am just going to suggest we leave it there?
Thanks Nutella, I will want to get the most out of it after travelling such a long way so I will go to both sites im sure.
I feel the need to see the place for myself after reading so much in history books and finding myself turning to the word "unbelievable" for most I read and see in film.
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What do you want them to say, 'ah ves ves, ein Jewish holiday camp.'?
Not quite sure what you mean?
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Wow, I can't honestly think of a single reason why they'd do this. Totally unmotivated and without any reason whatsoever.
Don't be silly.
There were many German soldiers who spent time and the camps, I was just wondering if the any of there thoughts or stories were told as part of the experience.
what like? "damn shivery tower i had to man today for a few hours, luckily a zondercommando took time off from shovelling corpses and made me a brew"
the evolution of the camp is discussed (from site one to site 3) and the expansion and scope of the german organisation behind the process but no not really. what more can you say for the people that volunteered for such duty under the totenkompf or regarded it as an easy posting when the medically unfit/old took over?
they did mention that the soviet POW's held there all got shot when the red army turned up, for being traitors by being captured.
its also made clear that the allies knew of such places from quite early on in the war (i do not blame their lack of action however).
otherwise it is descriptions of the process and personal stories
How very strange was just chatting to someone about this and this is on my ctrl v
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v622/richy_r5/auschwitz/
I went with my sister a while back now, it wasn't very expensive at all.
We went for 3 days tours of the camps and hotel for the time for around <£150 and it was so cheap out there for food etc..
I can't remember who my sis booked it through I will try and find out.
They picked us from the hotel and took us on the guided tour, brought us back after and arranged for pick up to and from airport.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v622/richy_r5/auschwitz/
I went with my sister a while back now, it wasn't very expensive at all.
We went for 3 days tours of the camps and hotel for the time for around <£150 and it was so cheap out there for food etc..
I can't remember who my sis booked it through I will try and find out.
They picked us from the hotel and took us on the guided tour, brought us back after and arranged for pick up to and from airport.
Krakow is wonderful, lots of nice bars and restaurants too.
On top of a day at Auschwitc you should spend half a day at the Salt Mines at Wieliczka.
Probably 1.5 days in Krakow itself, half a day at the mines and a day at Aushwitz.
Awesome trip to do, especially when everything is covered in snow
On top of a day at Auschwitc you should spend half a day at the Salt Mines at Wieliczka.
Probably 1.5 days in Krakow itself, half a day at the mines and a day at Aushwitz.
Awesome trip to do, especially when everything is covered in snow
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Visited a few years back and yes a disturbing but fascinating place. The methods, actions, and numbers associated are mind blowing.
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As above stay in Krakow (fun city) and if you get a chance also visit the salt mine.
When I went there was a few of us and it worked out cheaper to hire a taxi for the whole day rather than take public transport from Krakow central to Auschwitz.
My photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/andybakeruk/sets/72157615146367928/
As above stay in Krakow (fun city) and if you get a chance also visit the salt mine.
When I went there was a few of us and it worked out cheaper to hire a taxi for the whole day rather than take public transport from Krakow central to Auschwitz.
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A good post.
The argument that the problems in Israel are worse or equal to than what happened at Auschwitz are ridiculous.
Get out of this thread you idiots.
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Whilst serving in the Army I have been to both Auschwitz and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. Both visits profoundly upset me and I had to choke back tears, which is something this tough northerner doesn't do!
I'll never forget both visits although I was more moved by the visit to Yad Vashem. I remember there was a dark room with a candle and the room was filled with mirrors/prisms which then reflected the points of light so it looked like thousands of stars. Each point of light represents a child's life and an audio track spoke each name. That visit upset me for ages and it's something I'll never forget.
I'll never forget both visits although I was more moved by the visit to Yad Vashem. I remember there was a dark room with a candle and the room was filled with mirrors/prisms which then reflected the points of light so it looked like thousands of stars. Each point of light represents a child's life and an audio track spoke each name. That visit upset me for ages and it's something I'll never forget.
Wtf? Get out. He didn't ask about visiting Palestine. JEWS... quick, lets be edgy and talk about Palestine!!!
It's a valid subject, but you just look like knobs hijacking a thread like this to talk about it.
As for whether to get a guide, I found it much better without. You can move at your own pace and reflect more. It really is somewhere everyone should visit. The Poles have done a great job and maintaining the site.
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