I was also raised Christian, I attended Christian schools since nursery. I thought you where referring to Christians as people who actively adhere to the faith.
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I was also raised Christian, I attended Christian schools since nursery. I thought you where referring to Christians as people who actively adhere to the faith.
So let's just see what Islam says, it says 6/8 days for creation depending on your interpretation. In b4 1 day = an odd million years give or take.Has someone slandered your mother or something? I find it amusing how personally you seem to take things.
Lol @ some scientists don't understand evolution, but you do don't you? Anyone who says anything against what you believe, obviously doesn't understand it hey. It sounds like you are following a religion here.
BTW I don't know which muslims you know who believe in alien anal probing, southpark fans I am guessing?
That is right, even SCIENTISTS do not all agree on certain SCIENTIFIC theories. Just as some theories in the past have been discredited and new ones proposed, we know that very little is set in stone.
Now let's have a look at the evidence for the world being created in 6 days, it approximates to ermm Zero. Now let's take evolution for this matter, have I ever met any non debunked arguments against it? Nope.
So what faith does evolution take? Nothing.
So what faith does Islam take? Too much for my head to comprehend.
Am I happy to take well supported evidence? Yes I sure am, go and throw me some. I want to see everything you have.
Science is not set in stone you are right, but when presented with " I just disagree, this book says so." How am I supposed to accept that? I want to see what you Muslims are made of, is it all walk no talk or do you can you engage any logic here?
By the way you cannot get any more certain in science than a theory.
(Also I have not met any Alien anal probe believers, but from a statistical analysis some Muslims believers probably do exist)
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So in what way does a volcano or an asteroid hitting , killing thousands have anything to do with free will?
religious scholars rarely agree either and given all the different sects of Muslims constantly killing each other over these disagreements you can't really claim religion is set in stone either.
especially as Islam copies Christianity which copies Judaism.
That has to do with sin introducing errors into the system (bible point of view, don't now if other texts have anything similar)
I don't follow, introducing sin causes an asteroid to hit and kill people?
I would like to see your reasoning behind stating that alleged Alien Abductees are probably all Muslims....?
Sin through the system out of balance allowing many imperfections.
News reporter number 1: "Thousands of people have died after an asteroid impacted the earth"
News reporter number 2: "Yeah, I heard a few people sinned."
...Is that what you're getting at? Because if so, I don't buy it.
Yeah +1, you could also argue that a very large amount of these ancient books have been altered over the many years where people were paid to hand copy them out.
Let's just take the bible for example with "Thou shall not kill" vs "Thou shall not murder", how do you know what one to follow? They are completely different.
Ahh missed out some, will ninja edit.
What are you on about.
It was the original sin. Nothing to do with current sinners or punishment.
So the reason why an asteroid spins across the galaxy is because of the introduction of sin ?
In the case of a natural disaster, some people may die, some may be badly injured, some may be lucky to escape but have close family affected, some may not be affected at all. The question is, if a person knows that everything is ultimately from God, when they are tested (and God has promised us that we will be tested in order to separate those who believe from those who do not) are we able to keep hold of our faith, are we able to help those in need etc.
The definition of right and wrong changes over the years, and changes from one place to the other. Surely right and wrong should not be dictated by society though? Your choices may seem right in your own mind but wrong in someone elses, do we simply follow our own desires as we please, or has guidance been sent to us, I believe it has.
Humankind can barely understand how the brain works, nevermind grasp the universe when we look out there, how can we possibly understand the One that created all things? IF there is a God, then surely we can all agree that God would be something far greater then what our limited minds can comprehend?
we have no idea how the system was before and how it was broken by sin. You are looking for something that is un anserable.
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Could you explain your reasoning for why natural disasters aren't proof against the existance of a creator who cares about humans? I would be interested to hear it. The usual one that was also used after the tsunami in 2004 was that if we didn't have natural disasters then people wouldn't be able to be charitable and help out those affected. I always thought that was a bizarre notion - people have to die so the rest of the world can donate a tenner to charity and feel good about themselves.
I don't believe that the choices I have made have always been right, that would be arrogant.
Why does it matter to god to separate those that believe from those who dont? Surely the mere fact that god is right in front of your face , so to speak, would convince anyone at the time that he is real, so why make people suffer, sorry "test" them in advance ?
I agree that IF there was a god who created everything he would have to be more advanced than us, just as we were more advanced than cavemen to create what we have created. That doesn't mean I am going to believe that the sun and earth and everything was created by a supernatural entity, although I suppose a cavemen upon seeing a modern man flying a plane might well think it was a supernatural entity.
So the asteroids path and trajectory were caused by the introduction of sin and now god cannot change the path of the asteroid to prevent it impacting and killing people?
It certainly isn't evidence for no god.
But anyway human reason, is that human. The whole god moves in mysterious ways is the biggest pile of rubbish. We simply don't know his entire reasons.