Do you beleive in fate or is it just luck?

Everything that has happened was going to happen. For example, Im sure the way your parents met were pretty "lucky". And both their parents were pretty "lucky" in the ways they met. If they had not met, even if they had decided to have a child later, you would not have been born and you would not have met your missus. Everything is linked in one way or another.
 
'Luck' as most of us see it is merely our ego trying to make sense of random chance.

Chance exists. It will be completely random and relative to whether it is good or bad. Flip a coin so many times and you will at some point get a run of heads (good) or a run of tails (bad). Chance mixed with the ever-changing variables which make up our reality really do play a roll. However, it is not the be all and end all.

There is in my opinion no such thing as 'fate' as - as another earlier poster alluded to - it requires an external force of some kind which I do not believe exists.

There is merely randomised chance and self-determination.

It is not what life brings/does to us that is of importance; it is how we deal with those circumstances.

An individual who lands a very well paying job as opposed to ending up on JSA - despite even having qualifications for it - would be misguided to not recognise the large degree of chance and good fortune that went their way. Instead, too many people use these 'positive' events to reinforce their ego and conceited self-worth thinking that they deserved it and therefore must've earned it, completely ignoring all other variables.
 
I don't believe your scenario was any kind of fate. Not even luck. It's just something that happened.

I think the concept of everything happening for a reason is a good one though as it helps people to be optimistic about negative events. I also think there is a lot we don't understand about the subconscious mind and it's possible we make things happen for reasons that might be unknown to us.
 
I believe in something but I don't know what its called or how to express it too well. Luck is a too shallow and superficial title to describe matters imo.
 
No1newts said:
When I look back at that I just struggle to think how every little thing that happened all the way, like me deciding to go out when not wanting to, getting relocated by work, bumping into them in a bar as we were leaving. I just fail to see how that can all be blind luck, or if it is I wouldn't have minded putting a quid on it :D
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The thing is your perception is skewed by the fact that these things did all happen.

It's like looking at last night's lottery numbers and saying 'I fail to see how getting 9, 11, 37, 40, 41, 49 drawn can be blind luck as there are 14 million different combinations and that one happened', as if that combination was somehow special.

There were plenty of ways that your situation could have worked out, but the way this particular one did pan out was a way that was beneficial to you, so even though it was just one of many outcomes, you remember it.

Pretty much everything you do it life is just as unlikely, but because it didn't involve meeting your fiancée you don't think anything of it.

Go read this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules-Lives/dp/0713999225
It explains things like this very well.
 
I dont believe in fate, but I dont believe we have total control over life. My mind is made easier and less burdened with a feeling that everything works out in the end; life works in mysterious ways, and I've learned from some hard times in the past that things tend to sort themselves out eventually.

I can paraphrase "every action has an equal reaction", and I've learned that If in the immediate time following something when I am down about a decision, I know looking back at that moment in 2 weeks time I will be amused at how "it worked out".

"It is always darkest before the dawn".
 
I do not believe in luck ever. I believe in the chaos theory.

Scientifically, luck does not exist.

I believe in fate in as much as with enough information about a person (and exactly how their brain works) - we would know in advance exactly which decisions they would make when faced with specific criteria.

With a great enough technology, it would be possible for aliens to figure out exactly where every single atom within this world will be in 50 years time. To perfectly predict everything that will happen. As there is no such thing as luck.

So yes, everything is fate. It is predictable fact that in the next 10 minutes I will not put my head through the closed window next to me. Technology is currently unable to determine absolutely whether I will 'choose' to go to the cinema tonight or not - but in time - it will reach that level.
 
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Fate exists in that everything happens due to the things that have happened before it, so yes everything happens for a reason, it just happens the reason happened directly before it!

If you mean fate as in somebody has sat down and drawn out a plan for all eternity, then, no...
 
Metalface Mark said:
Are you suggesting everyones lives are pre determined before they are even born?

What a ludicrous suggestion.
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Of course I am. And it's not ludicrous, just scary because you hate the thought of having no power over your own existence, so your natural reaction is to call it ludicrious. It's a self-defence mechanism.
 
Believe in both fate and destiny but also believe that there is a bit of luck involved too....

I do believe that everyone has their fate written for them...the question is whether you do something about it to change it..some people do and are successful for it and some do but arent successful at it.
 
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