Earthquake in Japan....9.0...ouch!

Sky news is terrible, did they superFox it already?
New in the Daily Star, half the earth explodes as Jap Terror Bomb explodes.
What awful reporting, and terrible speculation.

BBC is sticking to facts, and their expert is being very clam.

It appears of on the tower building has lost its outer shell, this is part of reactor number 1.

This was build in the 70's using 1960's technology.
If new Nuclear statiosn were built in the 2020's using 2010 tech, in a country such as the UK which won't get 8.9 magnitude quakes and tsunamis, I doubt we'd ever see an issue or a glitch with nuclear tech.
 
Yes, there's no doubt that it's the reactor building that blew up, as the other building attached to it is definitely a turbine house. It's just a question of whether it was the reactor itself that exploded or something else.
 
Seems it's a waiting game, that video certain shows the 4th building disapering. Modern technology and building designs free available and "experts" still can't agree.
 
Jokester said:
Yes, there's no doubt that it's the reactor building that blew up, as the other building attached to it is definitely a turbine house. It's just a question of whether it was the reactor itself that exploded or something else.
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Im not sure what else is capable of pressurising a reactor pressuve vessel containment building other than the actually RPV itself....
 
Yeah looking at the steel framework suggests that that isnt the containment building which will be rebar concrete but instead the turbine and balance of plant buiding. Typically these are simply metal clad steel frame building not much different from your average DIY barn. If the explosion had been big enough to smash the containment building I'd be highly suprised if the steel work looked so good.

edit seems we cant agree :D
 
AcidHell2 said:
Seems it's a waiting game, that video certain shows the 4th building disapering. Modern technology and building designs free available and "experts" still can't agree.
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As ever with this sort of event, if you want any kind of sensible realistic view of events it's probably best to just wait until tomorrow or even longer, today will be full of scaremongering, hype generating and everyone predicting anything from 'just a bit of steam' to 'OMG GLOBAL MELTDOWN' with no facts beyond that one low quality video.
 
PlacidCasual said:
Yeah looking at the steel framework suggests that that isnt the containment building which will be rebar concrete but instead the turbine and balance of plant buiding. Typically these are simply metal clad steel frame building not much different from your average DIY barn. If the explosion had been big enough to smash the containment building I'd be highly suprised if the steel work looked so good.

edit seems we cant agree :D
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No its great discussion though.

The explosion in my book is big enough to project debris so far around the site so its serious pressure without a flammable gas/fuel buildup causing it.
 
This really is a horrible situation but it's very sad to see the usual subjects constantly reporting almost with 'glee' how the situation is unfolding, complete with uneducated doom-mongering opinion. I've not done it and won't but I suspect if I clicked on the 'who has posted who many times' thread the top 3 would be fairly obvious. clv101 expecting InvG to 'apologise' for being 'optimstic' was certainly a lowlight.

I know some of you find the idea of this sort of thing exciting and interesting but can you try and make it a tad less obvious you gain satisfaction from this sort of disaster unfolding?
 
Chap on the BBC many hours ago said he thought this building was for cranes tech to lift and move fuel around, and would sit above reactor 1, which is the entire complex.
Each of those four building all belonging to reactor 1, but he may have withdrew that since.
 
The nuclear incident is already sending shockwaves through the industry.

The opex from this incident would be a good learning tool. From my understanding they had a loco (loss of coolant). Can I just stress at that point the rods would drop automatically, and the reactor would be flooded with boric acid to stop the chain reaction.

There's talk that the turbine hall was the building that exploded. Either way it's a tragic event and I hope everyone got out okay.
 
If you look at the photo of the site on wiki, you can actually see the 6th reactor under construction:-

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That's a cutout of the big aerial image from wiki, taken during construction of reactor 6.

I think it's the rightmost building of the left group which has exploded and to me it seems to be the taller square building which has gone, which looking at the under construction building looks more like the reactor housing than the pumping building.

edit - FFS Jokester :p
 
I was just looking at the satellite photos too and it must have been the reactor building. But that is not a rebar concrete building thats gone pop. Although the picture is alarming the steelwork looks in good condition so the force couldn't have been too high.
 
The flow of the 'energy' will always end up at the sea and start inland at the reactor. So thats what I thought the layout would be, the large volume of the building gives a degree of protection for when the water leaks out and turns to steam instantly occupying 2000 times the volume it did as water.

I think the main issue with be the steam pile of a meltdown carrying fuel up and across..well anywhere the wind takes it. Neutron emissions from the fuel in contact with water is pretty damn nasty for human tissue, it physically changes DNA. I heard a story of a man back in th 60s who took a neutron source between sites but the box wasnt seat properly in the boot of his car and the leak was facing forwards. His lower back was being bombarded by neutrons during the trip and when he got out the car at the other end stepping out the car he collapsed in a heap as his lower back had essentially turned to mush.
 
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Hikari Kisugi said:
Sky news is terrible, did they superFox it already?
New in the Daily Star, half the earth explodes as Jap Terror Bomb explodes.
What awful reporting, and terrible speculation.

BBC is sticking to facts, and their expert is being very clam.

It appears of on the tower building has lost its outer shell, this is part of reactor number 1.

This was build in the 70's using 1960's technology.
If new Nuclear statiosn were built in the 2020's using 2010 tech, in a country such as the UK which won't get 8.9 magnitude quakes and tsunamis, I doubt we'd ever see an issue or a glitch with nuclear tech.
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BBC are reporting the Tory cuts could be to blame. :)
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
BBC is sticking to facts, and their expert is being very clam.
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Thats not entirely accurate. From their live feed:

From Richard Black, BBC environment correspondent: "Although Japan has a long and largely successful nuclear power programme, officials have been less than honest about some incidents in the past, meaning that official re-assurances are unlikely to convince everyone this time round."
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In the midst of the crisis and some career mogals are already pointing fingers. Tbh i would sue.
 
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