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Earthquake in Japan....9.0...ouch!
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But the guys who mend roads don't moonlight as helicopter pilots part time! If these guys were not mending roads what job could they do to help people in the worst affected areas? 
There job is to build/mend roads not drop aid out of helicopters if everyone spends there time in helicopters and planes dishing out aid who is going to rebuild the infrastructure to get them going again?
There job is to build/mend roads not drop aid out of helicopters if everyone spends there time in helicopters and planes dishing out aid who is going to rebuild the infrastructure to get them going again?
Well not once in the article does it mention an earthquake. And I watched the Fox News video you linked to- do you not think that in hundreds of years of research and data collection that if something as 'simple' as washed up fish was a reliable predictor of earthquakes then we wouldn't be in this situation still. Also, even if there was a correlation, what are we supposed to do about it? This is a case of fish being washed up in California- how does that warn of an earthquake in Japan? You can't evacuate the whole 'Ring of Fire'.
Its called prioritising. Why can't these people help search for survivors or deliver food and water to speed up the effort, then refocus on building the roads? It's not like it's skilled labour.
There was a devasted town recorded in the paper today, the survivors of which told how the first rescuers to arrive, were journalists and how they had had no food or water since the earthquake.
Thousands of peope missing, no one knows whether they are dead or not as there is still not an official way of finding out. It's well known that the Japanese Prime Minister is well loved but very indecisive. I think this highlights it.
There was a devasted town recorded in the paper today, the survivors of which told how the first rescuers to arrive, were journalists and how they had had no food or water since the earthquake.
Thousands of peope missing, no one knows whether they are dead or not as there is still not an official way of finding out. It's well known that the Japanese Prime Minister is well loved but very indecisive. I think this highlights it.
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Just read about earthquake fish never heard anything about them before so I was merely asking about them thats all not stating a connection. There is a lot to be said for ancient knowledge however archaic but I am just inquiring thats all not implying a proved link. Hence the question mark (?)
You are still missing the bloody point.
Road men build roads.
Rescuers rescue
Reporters report.
Pilots fly helipopters.
It can all happen at once and so it damn well should
It's the same with elephants. The 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, over 100 miles away an elephant tender noticed that the elephants had become restless and were "dancing" on their feet at the exact same time the earthquake was happening!
It's not an either or proposition.
If they weren't fixing roads they'd be at home watching tv between power cuts.
All the helicopters are already committed to the relief effort.
Part of the problem is there is no road infrastructure to ferry fuel and supplies close to the areas needed. This leads to longer flying time per load and consequently less aid being transported. This is why the US aircraft carrier is being used as a floating fuel depot.
Because there is no helicopter capacity to support them.
Open up the roads and vastly more aid can be moved in.
Open the roads and Electricity grid engineers can get power back up.
Open up the roads and significant quantities fuel can be moved in.
Open the roads and more rescue workers can be supported.
And in the length of time it takes to do this for all affected areas, what happens to the thousands of people already 5 days in withouth food or safe drinking water, or those who are still buried under rubble.
This should be Japans "all hands call".
Lucero, are you proposing that all the people currently rebuilding roads walk to areas with possible survivors carrying food and water? Or maybe find some more helicopters, learn how to fly them and get some fuel for them to delivery more food and water?
The sooner they can get roads up the better.
The sooner they can get roads up the better.
Roads are crucial in a situation like this, in all likelihood having them rebuild them now will allow for more lives to be saved, not less. Transportation is key and without it, aid cannot reach those who are most in need of it. There are a lot of people able to give aid; by allowing these to carry out such an important job, the effect of not having them digging for people buried under the rubble will not be felt, whereas the effect of them not quickly rebuilding vital routes for supplies to be sent along will.
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So you should send people into a dangerous situation they are untrained for?
Japan knows what they are doing as they have experienced this a fair few times.
I *really* can't see why you think that the road workers should do something else, it's their job. The road and rail infrastructure is just as important as reaching the outlying regions. Helicopters can only do so much!
Not at all, but it's not a skilled job. If they can better utilised in the rescue effort elsewhere, then they should. If the armchair viewers amongst us think they are fine rolling a hot steamer over some freshly laid tarmac, then that's fine too. Personally, I think communication trumps transport, and even that's not up and running fully yet.
100 miles is nothing - there are people who can feel earthquakes 5000 odd miles away.
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You think road laying isn't a skilled job?
Sorry but i beg to differ, perhaps it's not skilled in traditional terms but you simply couldn't pull any idiot off the street and tell him to lay a road.
You use the people best suited to a task to do that task, rebuilding infastructure quickly is a very important thing to do right now.
Sorry but i beg to differ, perhaps it's not skilled in traditional terms but you simply couldn't pull any idiot off the street and tell him to lay a road.
You use the people best suited to a task to do that task, rebuilding infastructure quickly is a very important thing to do right now.
What are you suggesting they do? Digging through rubble requires less skill than laying a road. As does delivering water.
Laying some roads very quickly (like they are doing) will make everyone else's jobs much quicker.
What use is someone familiar with laying roads going to be for fixing communications?
Laying some roads very quickly (like they are doing) will make everyone else's jobs much quicker.
What use is someone familiar with laying roads going to be for fixing communications?
It's great that I can tell you exactly where I want my supplies and you can receive that message, but what good is it if you can't actually get them to me?
Perhaps because not having the roads is hampering rescue efforts and getting aid to these people. Bigger picture m8
