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[dirtydog]

They seem to be civilians when they are on the wrong end of a gun.

Basic media manipulation basically - and it works very well when you read threads like this and see most people buying into the official BS story

 

[Danthus]

Me too, and the sooner he gets an ass whooping the better.

So are you calling for intervention in Saudi Arabia then?

 

[Ross1234]

Basic media manipulation basically - and it works very well when you read threads like this and see most people buying into the official BS story

How do you account for the dead children then.. are you saying they are rebels?

 

[dirtydog]

She is talking about protecting civilians, the rebels are not attacking civilians but Gaddafi's troops are, therefore assisting rebels helps protect civilians?

They are one and the same group.

 

[loltim]

Rebel plane, it's a mig-23

It's been proved it was a rebel plane?

 

[dirtydog]

How do you account for the dead children then.. are you saying they are rebels?

Are you saying Gaddafi deliberately targeted civilians? Or were they collateral damage? Is collateral damage only okay when we do it? When others do it, suddenly it's a war crime?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12769209

 

[Danthus]

She is talking about protecting civilians, the rebels are not attacking civilians but Gaddafi's troops are, therefore assisting rebels helps protect civilians?

So is Gaddafi attacking civilians or is he fighting a military coup?

 

[gizmoy2k]

Tomahawks in the air, fired by the US Navy, probably the subs that were off the coast

 

[dirtydog]

It's been proved it was a rebel plane?

Not AFAIK, but the rebels supposedly said it was theirs. You would think it would suit their cause better to claim it was a Gaddafi plane, if that were true.

 

[Danthus]

The US have launched Tomahawks and there have been explosions reported in Tripoli according to AFP.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Are you saying Gaddafi deliberately targeted civilians? Or were they collateral damage? Is collateral damage only okay when we do it? When others do it, suddenly it's a war crime?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12769209

We are not the US last time I checked?

 

[Danthus]

We are not the US last time I checked?

Collateral damage is just that, regardless of who is the aggressor.

 

[loltim]

Tomahawks in the air, fired by the US Navy, probably the subs that were off the coast

source?

edit: oh afp

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Tomahawks in the air, fired by the US Navy, probably the subs that were off the coast

Only just read that the US has 3 subs there. Taking out air defences or weapon stores?

Edit: air defences it would seem - http://www.ocala.com/article/20110319/APW/1103191350

 

[Ross1234]

Collateral damage is just that, regardless of who is the aggressor.

There is a difference between collateral damage and firing deliberately at protesters.

 

[dirtydog]

We are not the US last time I checked?

We are their lapdog and associated with them. But we have our own incidents of 'collateral damage' not to mention carrying out torture or allowing others to carry it out on our behalf etc. Basically the Western powers are hypocrites of the highest order.

 

[Danthus]

There is a difference between collateral damage and firing deliberately at protesters.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/19/uk-yemen-idUKTRE72H2YX20110319

wo prominent members of Yemen's ruling party resigned on Saturday in protest against the killing of dozens of anti-government protesters, while troops enforced a state of emergency in the capital.

Defying the crackdown, the opposition vowed to keep up its "peaceful revolution" in the poor Arabian peninsula state, a neighbour of Saudi Arabia and a U.S. ally against al Qaeda.

Soldiers set up checkpoints to enforce a ban on carrying firearms in public, even checking for hidden guns inside the ornamental scabbards of traditional Yemeni jambiya daggers.

Nasr Taha Mustafa, head of the state news agency and a leading ruling party member, said he had resigned from his post and the party in protest over Friday's killings of up to 42 protesters by rooftop snipers in the capital.

The snipers opened fire on crowds that flocked to a sit-in at Sanaa University after Friday prayers. Protesters said they had caught at least seven snipers carrying government identity cards, but President Ali Abdullah Saleh denied this, blaming gunmen among the protesters for the violence.

Indeed.

I take it we are just about to help the Yemeni civilians, yes?

 

[snowball1]

I wish someone would whoop our ass, because it has been a long time coming and we deserve it. We need taking down a peg or two and reminded that we don't own the world and its resources. We are too arrogant and drunk with power.

Are you for real?

 

[loltim]

could Russia "regretting" the western military action cause any problems?

edit: DC live bbc now

 

[mmj_uk]

Are you saying Gaddafi deliberately targeted civilians? Or were they collateral damage? Is collateral damage only okay when we do it? When others do it, suddenly it's a war crime?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12769209

Media propaganda works wonders doesn't it?

Around 100,000 civilians have died in Iraq during our occupation and people on here just coldly say "it's war what do you expect?", Gaddafi kills a few people targetting rebels hiding in populated cities and it's "zomg what a tyrant we must help save them". The west is full of hypocrisy.