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[Firestar_3x]

WTF are the US doing i really really hope they haven't shot at any civilians whilst conducting the rescue mission.

 

[[TW]Fox]

"But what excuse can we use to go in there and get all that delicious oil?"

Cool, so when this is over, we get cheap oil from Libya? Thats brilliant news.

There was me thinking we'd have to pay $100+ a barrel for it given the way its traded but it seems you know better.

 

[doodah]

WTF are the US doing i really really hope they haven't shot at any civilians whilst conducting the rescue mission.

Come again?

 

[Danthus]

Cool, so when this is over, we get cheap oil from Libya? Thats brilliant news.

There was me thinking we'd have to pay $100+ a barrel for it given the way its traded but it seems you know better.

Who has said anything about cheap oil?

 

[Firestar_3x]

Come again?

A US F15E crashed into a field in Libya, pilot and weapons officer ejected, both landed in different fields, some people came up to them and showed much love for the efforts to get shot of Gaddafi.

Pickup for pilot sorted out, Osprey lands and has apparently shot at and hurt civilians, 6 to be exact.

 

[Danthus]

Hearts and minds.

 

[doodah]

A US F15E crashed into a field in Libya, pilot and weapons officer ejected, both landed in different fields, some people came up to them and showed much love for the efforts to get shot of Gaddafi.

Pickup for pilot sorted out, Osprey lands and has apparently shot at and hurt civilians, 6 to be exact.

I knew about the Strike Eagle crashing but not the alleged shooting of civilians

 

[Cosimo]

Hearts and minds.

Camels and sand. Is this a word association game?

 

[DM]

Camels and sand. Is this a word association game?

Gadaffi and Sadam both had moustaches, does that count?

 

[DM]

Hearts and minds.

Scotch and soda.

 

[Surfer]

Totally agree, it's one of the best written and thought out articles i've read in a long time.

Is it? You guys must be easily pleased then.

Take out mentions of Gadaffi and take out Libya...insert any of half a dozen dictatorships names and kings/leaders and its the same argument. This is not something particular to Col Gadaffi and Libya.....

It applies to Libya as it does for all those other seriously dodgy regimes in the region (and throughout the world tbh) See earlier in this thread if you really need names of these.....

Found the article ok, but rather naive. The principles of intervention i agree with but it must be consistent otherwise....its all just just the usual political back scratching, underhand deals & shenanigans.

At the end of the day we - the populace - are pawns in this game of chess.

From a simplistic point of view: if all goes well its going to be a democracy so by definition it should align in a way that any differences can be talked out

are you kidding!? lol yeah it'll be smooth sailing won't it haha

 

[Firestar_3x]

I knew about the Strike Eagle crashing but not the alleged shooting of civilians

This is the last thing we needed, trust it to be the Americans who do this.

The US Joint Task Force Commander has just refused to comment on the reports that six Libyan civilians were shot by US rescuers. Admiral Locklear said that an investigation into the rescue mission had been launched and he would say nothing until it was complete. When pushed, he also refused to comment on whether any shots had been fired. He was fielding questions during a US press briefing.

 

[Strife212]

A US F15E crashed into a field in Libya, pilot and weapons officer ejected, both landed in different fields, some people came up to them and showed much love for the efforts to get shot of Gaddafi.

Pickup for pilot sorted out, Osprey lands and has apparently shot at and hurt civilians, 6 to be exact.

My word, that's the mission ruined then

 

[Firestar_3x]

are you kidding!? lol yeah it'll be smooth sailing won't it haha

I'm talking in the long term 10 - 15 years from now.

Clearly you can't oust a dictatorship and roll a democracy right across the country in one weekend......

 

[Surfer]

I'm talking in the long term 20 years from now.

Ahhh long term! Well in the long term everything is always just peachy aint it. Thats a bit like saying ohh radiation isnt a problem we just need to wait it out and it'll be fine

We did such a good job in Iraq it'll be a snip wont it.

 

[Danthus]

There appear to be a few websites reporting that Germany is calling for an Oil embargo on Libya.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110321/local/merkel-favours-libya-oil-embargo

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/libya-conflict-nato.96t

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42208029/ns/world_news-europe

 

[JUMPURS]

This is the last thing we needed, trust it to be the Americans who do this.

Cos the brits would never do anything stupid, like have a special forces platoon captured or that.

And anyway, that's the least of America's worries, they are not even legally allowed to be involved in action (by their own laws), only congress can send forces into action abroad, unless the US was attacked directly (and even then, the president can only authorize 60 days)

 

[craptakular]

Who cares if it is about oil?

I want my car to run.

Seriously, I'm glad our country tries to secure us the resources we need.

 

[loltim]

Sorry to be a bit RSS'y but this is interesting.

1942: More signs that the coalition is widening. Romania is to send a frigate to the Mediterranean to take part in a Nato arms embargo of Libya, President Traian Basescu is quoted as saying by AFP news agency.

 

[Hedge]

Maybe the f15 was shot down but said it crashed to keep us positive. Conspiracy!