38% of Americans believe tsunami was sent by God

Absolutely not, it's not how God operates, it's not in line with his character.
A tragic result of a broken world, not some act of judgement or vengeance, or even an answer to prayer.

How do you figure that one out?

I mean if you choose to believe in the Christian God then he's got a previous history of these sorts of shenanigans - Noah and his Arc etc...

I presume you're not Christian or you just pick and choose the bits you like from the bible.

Whole thing is a waste of time tbh... its a bunch of stories written thousands of years ago.
 
Neither we contemporaries, so relying on at least second hand information. Considering the time they lived in, they likely heard it orally, rather than read about it, and stories rarely survive without alteration when passed in verbally, especially when claims of divinity are involved. In each case only minor mentions are made, which is odd considering that when Jesus died supposedly zombies got up out of their graves and went into town and were supposedly seen by many people. Seeing the dead rise would deserve more than a tiny mention decades later, wouldn't it? Even in the time before major new outlets word would get around of zombies.

There is no contemporary ex-biblical evidence for Jesus. Then consider the bible, Since no amount of anonymous textual claims of supernatural powers are sufficient to believe them what are you left with when you disregard them in relation to Jesus? When you remove from consideration all bible stories relating to claims of supernatural powers you end up with someone who was just a vaguely vocal rabbi.

Then you can draw analogies to Socraties. He may not have existed and his wisdom and teachings just the lumping together of other people's ideas. Or perhaps there was someone upon which the historical person is based and over time other people's ideas have been credited to him (success breeds success, a phenomenon seen in the academic community).
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I quite agree, however I wasnt really refering to how authentic biblical references were, only that it is unlikely that Jesus was a total invention given that there are references within a century of his death.
 
If anyone REALLY believes that 38% of the entire population of the US believed that god sent it, maybe they are not the stupid ones......

Indeed. Rather misleading title as I'm pretty sure not all 260million Americans were asked their opinion.

This is a survey run by a religious organisation and will therefore be biased towards religion. Are there any figures on the census numbers? Was it 500 people asked, 5000, 500000 etc?
 
...because it seems slightly sick that the divine being they choose to believe in, and who supposedly spreads love etc. etc. they also attribute to simply choosing to kill thousands of people. It's almost like they get off in some way, thinking that their god has killed thousands of others and chosen not to kill them, and so fool themselves into believing that they are a much better person than those that died, and have a greater connection with god or that their god has a greater love for them.

To me, it borders on sadism.

One figure on that chart, is that 40% believe natural disasters are God testing peoples faith - is that really a god you want to worship?



At least there are some sane Americans:

'Only about 1-in-5 (18%) Americans say seeing innocent people suffer sometimes causes them to have doubts about God.'

Have you ever read any of the old testament? God is like Rambo on crack.... kills infinitely more than anyone else. The new testemant has only a marginally less homicidal god.

As for the statistic... 38% of Americans are tards.
 
Absolutely not, it's not how God operates, it's not in line with his character.
A tragic result of a broken world, not some act of judgement or vengeance, or even an answer to prayer.

If you had ever read the bible you would know that it absolutely is in his character. God kills MILLIONS in it, most of the time for the most inane reasons.
 
It's hardly fictional though, Jesus existed and we have evidence for some of the events in the bible. Essentially they are basing their belief on that Jesus really was who he said he was. I don't see the point in endless smug threads mocking such a position.

There is no evidence at all. The first accounts of his existance come some 80ish years after when he was meant to have lived. There is no reference to him before that.
 
If you belive in God how could you not attribute it to God? Would God not be the driving force behind everything, as part of Gods plan?

no, although the bible does contradict itself.

Look at the old testament and it says God did such things.

Other parts say sin damaged the perfect system and unbalanced it. meaning all these disasters are just that natural disasters and not made by God. So depends which part you want to ignore or how you interpret it.
 
come on guys, you have to stop insulting and denying people who believe in religion. They seek comfort and warmth from their religion and god. Insulting them or calling them idiots is kinda hurtful heh?
 
There is no evidence at all. The first accounts of his existance come some 80ish years after when he was meant to have lived. There is no reference to him before that.
There is nothing written on the net about me either, I exist. Why would someone invent an imaginary prophet for funzies when they could just write about some guy who actually existed. If he was made up don't you think the people at the time would have pointed all this out :D

If you belive in God how could you not attribute it to God? Would God not be the driving force behind everything, as part of Gods plan?
If God did everything there would be no free will, just because a God is supposedly capable of action doesn't mean every event is attributable to a God.
 
come on guys, you have to stop insulting and denying people who believe in religion. They seek comfort and warmth from their religion and god. Insulting them or calling them idiots is kinda hurtful heh?

A drunk will find comfort in a bottle of whiskey and a drug addict in a syringe full of heroin, yet there are good reasons to help both these people to overcome these addictions. In fact, the original question can be easily paralleled to "Why are you such a buzzkill?" uttered by a drunk from whom you take the bottle away, and for much the same reasons.

Iron chariots is your friend ;).
 
^ Such sentiments are just not true though, threads like these are just there to mock and cut-n-paste the glib thoughts of others, which in itself is a bit sad.
 
^ Such sentiments are just not true though, threads like these are just there to mock and cut-n-paste the glib thoughts of others, which in itself is a bit sad.
Right, I guess you are ignorant to the effects of Religion.
Such as
This
This

If you have a irrational belief you're going to most likely impact on others, be it your children, your friends etc...
Casual religion will cause indirect effects and will create a sympathetic environment in which problems can occur.
 
Right, I guess you are ignorant to the effects of Religion.
Such as
This
This

If you have a irrational belief you're going to most likely impact on others, be it your children, your friends etc...
Casual religion will cause indirect effects and will create a sympathetic environment in which problems can occur.



The problem is that you are no less ignorant than those you are railing against frankly.

Attributing conservative evangelical nonsense to religion in general.

Laughable.
 
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