Quick question to all parents...

It does sounds like he has not adapted to being a father properly. He is still putting himself first. All trips have to be planned around the children when they can not fend for themselves.

Every trip with the kids is like a camping trip compared to my single days.

Never really got this attitude, we just tended to have a bag handy with all the usual travel stuff (nappies, wipes, spare cloths that sort of thing) and just picked that up on the way out. Could be up and out of the house in minutes with no real additional fuss. Friends of ours however made every trip out with their child an exercise in logistics.

As to the OP, not something I would do but then it all depends on the circumstances and if they were only going to be gone a few minutes then the risk is pretty minimal.
 
Yeah, some parents faff about with the kitchen sink. We have one bag which has an A-Team nappy kit (rolled up nappy with some wet wipes and a nappy bag inside - held together with an elastic band) and some snacks and that's about it. Bloodline is right about it changing your life, though - you definitely have to put yourself on hold!
 
Never really got this attitude, we just tended to have a bag handy with all the usual travel stuff (nappies, wipes, spare cloths that sort of thing) and just picked that up on the way out. Could be up and out of the house in minutes with no real additional fuss. Friends of ours however made every trip out with their child an exercise in logistics.

As to the OP, not something I would do but then it all depends on the circumstances and if they were only going to be gone a few minutes then the risk is pretty minimal.

Yeah I didn't mean I packed for the week on day trips lol. But compared to taking a trip on your own to going with kids it is more work. We have a travel bag by the front door with all the basics as mentioned.
 
You said that it is not about the kids being an inconvenience then you say it's about getting the job done quickly. Which you are saying that if you had to take the kids it would slow you down. Doesn't that make them an inconvenience?

Easier and quicker are the main words that stand out from your posts.

Even though it is a very small risk, it is an unnecessary risk.

The point of leaving them at home was sarcasm. I forgot the :rolleyes:

As for when someone mentioned about people never leaving their kids in the car at a petrol station and calling them liars. Then sorry but you are wrong. I have never left my child in the car at a petrol station. I just queue for the pump that enables you to pay with your card at the pump.

I know it's an inconvenience for some but I don't believe in the unnecessary risk despite how low that risk is.

On another note my work colleague was left in a car as a child and the hand break didn't hold and it ran down the road. No harm done to him but it could have been worse.

As I have said, the risk is minute, and if it helps you get the job done quicker then that's not a big deal. As I have said, I'm not talking about your weekly shop. I'm talking about in and out for a handful of things. The risk is utterly negligible and the time and stress saved can be considerable.

And its ok to leave a child who is distressed for 10 mins, all alone with random people looking at them through the window?

Do you have any idea how much time kids spend crying? Ten minutes is nothing.

It does sounds like he has not adapted to being a father properly.

Oh, get stuffed. You don't know the first thing about me, other than that I have a different attitude to risk to you.
 
Not really, a kid crying for ten minutes is not much at all, just as the many parents that have had kids with cholic.

My 20 month old is currently teething, so she's up in the night a lot. We're going to be back to sleep training when this has passed. The time will come when she'll be left to cry for as long as it takes.
 
Not really, a kid crying for ten minutes is not much at all, just as the many parents that have had kids with cholic.

That's different. You can hold them or be near them at least.
Leaving a distressed child crying in a car is not the same thing.
 
My 20 month old is currently teething, so she's up in the night a lot. We're going to be back to sleep training when this has passed. The time will come when she'll be left to cry for as long as it takes.

Controlled crying is the best thing my wife ever did for us all. (I personally can't listen to him cry for long, so she did it when I was working or I had to put ear plugs in).

My son will happily sleep in until 8/9 or on the odd occassion after nursery 10. He never gives us less than 12 hours unless he's ill. Since he came off the boob he's barely given us a bad nights sleep. I'm not going to push my luck with a second :D
 
So why is it not an offence if you leave them in a car while you go in to pay for your petrol?

WTF?

I don't give a crap if its only 10 secs, I would never ever leave my kid in the car alone for one sec.. What so some paedo predator can steal him for his own sexual pleasures.

You are an irresponsible parent for doing so. I hope it is illegal and you get nicked for it. Kids do go missing you know.

You're thinking, chances are very little, but it does happen and believe it or not, there are sicko's out there. You'd only have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. You'd only have yourself to blame if it ever did.

Law or no law, I'd of called the police.
 
my wife went mental when she heard I left my boy to pay for petrol! he was 4 at the time and happily sat playing on his DS!
 
I can honestly say I have never seen people get their kids especially babies out to pay for petrol. You are feet away and if you are that worried about them getting stolen you should hold them in your arms while filling up.

What if you have triplets and are a single mother, can you never fill up?
Go out with the neighbour to watch the kids while you pay for petrol.

Yeah you can use the pay at the pump, but I rarely go to a station where the bloody thing works anyway.

I can understand not going into tesco to buy the shopping but taking the kids out the car to pay for petrol when you can lock the car and see the car is neurotic. If your that worried about pedoes everywhere well I suggest you never send your kids to school, I imagine the odds on getting touched in sad places is much higher at school than locked in a car while you are 20 feet away.
 
Is that so? I'd be intrigued, being as we sometimes do it when we're nipping into Tesco for a couple of things.

In fact, I'm calling BS on that, because otherwise you couldn't get out to pay for your petrol at the petrol station, and I couldn't leave my one year old in the car while I go in to get my other child from the childminder's, or any of the myriad scenarios where such a thing might be done.

It is a criminal offense, a footballer player for Celtic was investigated recently for doing the same thing, he got off saying that he was watching the car at the entrance, waiting for his wife to come out.

You shouldnt ever leave a child unattended in a car, just because there are scenario's where you do it, doesnt make them right.
 
WTF?

I don't give a crap if its only 10 secs, I would never ever leave my kid in the car alone for one sec.. What so some paedo predator can steal him for his own sexual pleasures.

You are an irresponsible parent for doing so. I hope it is illegal and you get nicked for it. Kids do go missing you know.

You're thinking, chances are very little, but it does happen and believe it or not, there are sicko's out there. You'd only have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. You'd only have yourself to blame if it ever did.

Law or no law, I'd of called the police.

Get over yourself. It's not illegal and the police wouldn't give a crap unless there was any risk to the child, which for a reasonable time in a locked car on a cool day there simply isn't.

In other news, there is not a paedo in every bush. Put the daily express down and chill out. In other other news, the people most likely to abuse a child are its immediate family, and invariably men. I guess I better move out.
 
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It is a criminal offense, a footballer player for Celtic was investigated recently for doing the same thing, he got off saying that he was watching the car at the entrance, waiting for his wife to come out.

You shouldnt ever leave a child unattended in a car, just because there are scenario's where you do it, doesnt make them right.

More accurately, just because there are situations when it is illegal, doesn't mean it always is, nor that it is wrong to do so.
 
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