US atom smasher may have found new force of nature

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Data from a major US atom smasher lab may have revealed a new elementary particle, or potentially a new force of nature that could expand our knowledge of the properties of matter, physicists say.

The science world was abuzz with excitement Wednesday over the findings, which could offer clues to the persistent riddle of mass and how objects obtain it -- one of the most sought-after answers in all of physics.

But experts cautioned that more analysis was needed over the next several months to uncover the true nature of the observation, which comes as part of an ongoing experiment with proton and antiproton collisions to understand the workings of the universe.

"There could be some new force beyond the force that we know," said Giovanni Punzi, a physicist with the international research team that is analyzing the data from the US Department of Energy's Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory.

"If it is confirmed, it could point to a whole new world of interactions," he told AFP.

While much remains a mystery, researchers agree that this is not the "God Particle," or the Higgs-boson, a hypothetical elementary particle that has long eluded physicists who believe it could explain why objects have mass.

"The Higgs-boson is a piece that goes into the puzzle that we already have," said Punzi. "Whereas this is something that goes a little bit beyond that -- a new interaction, a new force."

Punzi said the new observation behaves differently than the Higgs-boson, which would be decaying into heavy quarks, or particles.

The new discovery "is decaying in normal quarks," Punzi said. "It has different features," he added.

"One thing we know for sure -- it is not the Higgs-boson. That is the only thing we know for sure."

For more than a year physicists have been studying what appears to be a "bump" in the data from the Illinois-based Fermi lab, which operates the powerful particle accelerator, or atom-smasher, Tevatron.

The Tevatron was once the most powerful machine in the world for such purposes until 2008 when the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) became operational at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, which goes by the acronym CERN.

The US machine began its work in the mid 1980s, and is scheduled for shutdown later this year when its funding runs dry.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-atom-smasher-nature.html

Assuming it is not a big PR announcement leading up to disappointment, this would seem to mean it could be an even bigger discovery that the much-anticipated discovery of the Higgs-boson. There are only four known forces they are likely referring to: electromagnetism, mavity, and the weak and strong nuclear forces. It sounds like they think this could mark the discovery of a fifth force.

queue fifth element jokes :P
 
WAIT WAIT WAIT..... they are running out of funding and then find a new magical force that the government can turn into a weapon... with miltary funding being the highest spent budget the american's have they might get a blank check :D

*Removes tight tin foil hat*

Not enough information on what this force is can be used for so wouldnt go nuts about it yet until they at least find out what use it could be.
 
WAIT WAIT WAIT..... they are running out of funding and then find a new magical force that the government can turn into a weapon... with miltary funding being the highest spent budget the american's have they might get a blank check :D

*Removes tight tin foil hat*

Not enough information on what this force is can be used for so wouldnt go nuts about it yet until they at least find out what use it could be.

This, what a coincidence...
 
and is scheduled for shutdown later this year when its funding runs dry.
good job they might just have discovered something they more than likely cant prove exists and never will be able to then.

BRAVO!
 
Not enough information on what this force is can be used for so wouldnt go nuts about it yet until they at least find out what use it could be.

More discoveries have emerged from pursuing science for the sake of science than seeking practical applications. Fields of study shouldn't be restricted to what's deemed useful.
 
More discoveries have emerged from pursuing science for the sake of science than seeking practical applications. Fields of study shouldn't be restricted to what's deemed useful.

Yeah I get that. I'm just not exploding in my pants over this yet :D.

Once more information comes available so that a practical use can be made of it will be the time I can get happy about it. Mean while I have no problem with other people researching and spending time on it.
 
In my view, I doubt there'd be any practical application for it...I doubt it would have any significant effect on anything other than things at a subatomic level. Look at the weak nuclear force, that is responsible for certain interactions as well as radioactive decay, without it we wouldn't exist but it hasn't really given us an application. ( Correct me if I'm wrong people, my knowledge is limited :D)

There's gonna be a presentation at 4pm Central time(Not sure what that is in BST :confused:) according to the Fermilab website so that should give us a load more info, hopefully.
 
In my view, I doubt there'd be any practical application for it...I doubt it would have any significant effect on anything other than things at a subatomic level. Look at the weak nuclear force, that is responsible for certain interactions as well as radioactive decay, without it we wouldn't exist but it hasn't really given us an application. ( Correct me if I'm wrong people, my knowledge is limited :D)

There's gonna be a presentation at 4pm Central time(Not sure what that is in BST :confused:) according to the Fermilab website so that should give us a load more info, hopefully.

Hasn't given us an application YET, science always gives applications, it might just take decades or longer before any potential is seen.


In other news, I forgot just how cynical this forum is :confused: Are non of you excited by this news?
 
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