What winds you up most when you're driving?

atpbx said:
I took my HGV test last year and you most certainly do get told not to do it.

You do not indicate to overtake parked cars, the following and oncoming traffic expects you to drive around it and make progress.

You get told not to do it on your motorbike test, on your car test and on your HGV test.
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I always do it if i have cars infront or behind me. Cant remember if your allowed on your test, i just think if someone is behind me or infront of me they need to know im moving around the car infront.

Road users behind me would indicate to,, it lets people know there is an obstruction infront and you have to move onto the other side of the road to get past.

Then, im approaching a parked car, i will indicate to show the oncomming car i am not waiting behind it for them to pass first.
 
Indicating to pass parked cars is confusing and potentially dangerous if you ask me, plus its kind of obvious as the only other option is to crash, its fair to assume that people will be driving around...
 
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mattyfez said:
Indicating to pass parked cars is confusing and potentially dangerous if you ask me, plus its kind of obvious as the only other option is to crash, its fair to assume that people will be driving around...
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That's the point, its clear you are going to drive round it if you are on the straight ahead so if you are indicating it means you are intending to do something else.
It's why they don't like it on tests.

You actually dont have to indicate for all that much.

Changing lanes, over taking, pulling into the side, turning off, on a round about, pulling off.

Where you don't indicate.

Passing parked cars, at multi lane traffic lights, where you can only turn one way, returning to your side of the road after over taking.

You are not even supposed to indicate that you intend to move off from the side of the road until there is space for you to pull off in to.
 
If you are going to have to cross into the on-coming lane then you need to indicate
or to change to the (effective) right hand lane (if the road you are on can take 2 lanes of cars) then you also need to indicate as it is a lane change

It doesn't matter whether it is obvious or not what you are about to do, you are doing something OTHER than just carrying on in your lane in your direction of travel.
 
atpbx said:
I took my HGV test last year and you most certainly do get told not to do it.

You do not indicate to overtake parked cars, the following and oncoming traffic expects you to drive around it and make progress.

You get told not to do it on your motorbike test, on your car test and on your HGV test.
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It might be different in a HGV but if your in a regular passenger car you are expected to do it, if you stop behind a parked car while oncoming traffic passes you are then supposed to indicate before pulling out so vehicles coming from behind and other road users know your intentions.
 
I passed my test 3 years ago and was taught to MSM when going around a car parked in teh road or other obstruction, and to obviously cancel the signal when past, I can't remember but I might have been taught the same on my CBT two years ago, or that might have been just to do a lifesaver, can't remember fully.
 
Passing the entry slip of a motorway at usual motorway speed when someone decides to fly out into lane 2 or 3 at 40mph from the slip road right into my path. Junction 11 @ Reading on the M4 is awful for this !

Dangerous morons never indicate, or speed up then give you abuse for steaming up behind them while trying desperately to slow down without the following car nesting in your boot ... Grrrr...

That and people who attempt to join the motorway at said speeds , worst being people who think pulling out right ahead of a truck at 35, causing him to brake and block up the slip and therefore mess up everyone else's joining. Its less of an issue in a rapid car, but when I had my old 1.6 Peugeot getting out of the slip road chaos without causing more was a nightmare
 
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The 40mph slip roaders are a nightmare, hate following them along the slip road onto a busy carriageway knowing the fact they are going half the speed of the traffic they are trying to join, and it is just going to get messy for everybody. :(
 
I hate them too, but luckily I can swing out into the outside lane and be past them pretty quickly if nothing is coming up the rear in the right hand lane. Hypocritically, I hate people who join a DC slowly then imediatley get into the right hand lane because it's less busy than the left hand lane (I dunno, that always seems to look like the reason they do it) when you're busy overtaking the cars in left hand lane, it would be slightly alright if they were in a fast car and acted as such, but it's always a woman in a 1.2 Corsa.
 
People who take the inside lane on roundabouts to go straight on purely to jump the queue.

That's really the only thing that makes me angry whilst driving.
 
2Thumbs said:
People who take the inside lane on roundabouts to go straight on purely to jump the queue.

That's really the only thing that makes me angry whilst driving.
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:confused: You mean outside lane? You're queing in the left, and they pass in the right, then go straight on at the roundabout?
 
Yes.

I've always called it the inside lane because it's closest to the centre. I must have been wrong for the last 6 years lol.
 
rypt said:
If you are going to have to cross into the on-coming lane then you need to indicate
or to change to the (effective) right hand lane (if the road you are on can take 2 lanes of cars) then you also need to indicate as it is a lane change

It doesn't matter whether it is obvious or not what you are about to do, you are doing something OTHER than just carrying on in your lane in your direction of travel.
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No you dont, because when you move past the parked car, there wont be anybody coming from the other way to indicate to, because if they are close enough that you have to warn them you are moving out, you will of failed anyway and following traffic will be aware you intend to drive past the parked car, because you havent indicated left to pull in behind it.

All three tests I've taken (Bike, Car, HGV) I've been told not to do it.

This is going to be the same as the passing on the left fiasco,

http://www.ultimatedrivingschool.co...&catid=7:frequently-asked-questions&Itemid=33
http://www.driving-test-success.com/meeting_traffic/meeting_traffic.html
http://www.ukbikeforum.co.uk/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t19347.html

So at the very least "good drivers" or "advanced drivers" view it as bad practice even after you have passed your test, as your road positioning, speed and observation will of told everyone what you are doing, and indicating then brings an element of doubt to you actual intentions.
The bike link is a little different as you get people arguing about being as safe as possible due to ignorant car drivers not paying attention, which in itself is true enough seeing as half of them dont know when to indicate or not.
 
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Oooh here's one I forgot.

You're in stationary traffic and you need to move over to the next lane. There's a gap for you to move in to, so you signal and start moving. The person behind this gap sees you doing this, and then immediately surges forwards to close the gap. And then beeps at you if you don't move out of his way.
 
I also hate on the motorway when a lorry indicates to pull out and begins to move over so I indicate to move into the outside lane but the guy behind decides he wants to be infront and dives around you so you have to brake to not go into the back of the lorry.
 
atpbx said:
No you dont, because when you move past the parked car, there wont be anybody coming from the other way to indicate to, because if they are close enough that you have to warn them you are moving out, you will of failed anyway and following traffic will be aware you intend to drive past the parked car, because you havent indicated left to pull in behind it.

All three tests I've taken (Bike, Car, HGV) I've been told not to do it.

This is going to be the same as the passing on the left fiasco,

http://www.ultimatedrivingschool.co...&catid=7:frequently-asked-questions&Itemid=33
http://www.driving-test-success.com/meeting_traffic/meeting_traffic.html
http://www.ukbikeforum.co.uk/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t19347.html

So at the very least "good drivers" or "advanced drivers" view it as bad practice even after you have passed your test, as your road positioning, speed and observation will of told everyone what you are doing, and indicating then brings an element of doubt to you actual intentions.
The bike link is a little different as you get people arguing about being as safe as possible due to ignorant car drivers not paying attention, which in itself is true enough seeing as half of them dont know when to indicate or not.
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it makes sense to indicate if you need to go over the white line in to the other lane.....especially in a truck....sometimes you need to swing out across most of the width of the oncoming lane to get round the parked car, but the car behind you doesn't need to swing out so it could pass you and the parked car you're waiting to pass because there's enough room, even with oncoming traffic
so you put your indicator on so he knows you're not just sitting there, nobody is going to go past you when your indicator is on
 
Just been to a barbeque and a driving instructor chap was there, i asked him the indicating around parked cars question and his answer was as follows:

He tells his students to indicate around a parked car only if the student needs to cross the central white line to do so.

I then asked him who the indication is for, his reply was:

The indication is for oncoming vehicles but mainly for the vehicle immediately to the rear of you if there is one.

dependant on the type of road, the driver to the rear may not be able to see the parked vehicle, relying on another driver to know what your intention is, due to where your vehicle is positioned in the road is not deemed as road safe.

He did also go on to say that each instructor has his/her own methods and very often examiners at different centres prefer different styles of driving so dont take the above as gospel.
 
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